A better rail-marking tool

This thing has been a long time in the making.

I started this several months ago, thinking it would be a relatively simple project. I just wanted to make a better rail-marking tool, one that could be used to draw a line a set distance from the rail, deck or bottom, with precision and repeatability. No more wavy pinlines or uneven cutlaps, no problem.

It turned into a months-long exercise in problem-solving… It was re-engineered a half dozen times and totally shelved twice, both times throwing my hands up and swearing to cut my losses and forget about the whole thing. I finally finished it after my buddy Jeff at Spindriftsurfboards kept hassling me to turn one out for his shaping bay. Sometimes you need friends like that to crack the whip on your lazy ass. So, I found solutions for the design issues I was having (simple is better, over-engineering is for showoffs), and finished them up.

So, here’s my rail marking tool:

It is adjustable to mark a line from 0" to about 4" from the rail. Photos also show rail/bottom guide in position (upside down) for marking bottom of board.

Adjustable for board max thickness as well. In this photo, the guide is right side up, for marking the deck.

The angle of the pencil is adjustable, so a more oblique angle can be used on foam to prevent tearing, and more vertical on glassed boards. This also allows the tool to be used the same direction on both sides of the board (ex. tail-nose, tail-nose).

The pencil holder is a carbon-fiber tube almost exactly the diameter of a Papermate Classic #2 yellow pencil. The pencil has to be sanded just slightly (not even all the way through paint) to make it a perfect slip-fit into the pencil holder. The pencil stays in perfect alignment relative to the rail, but can be raised and lowered within the tube “on the fly” to adjust marking pressure and to adjust for changing foil thickness. NOTE: The pencil must be sharpened accurately. Since the pencil can rotate in the holder, if the point of the pencil is off-center, the line can wander if the pencil rotates.

Using the tool:

The basic premise is that with the bottom guide held flat against the bottom, and the rail guides held against the rail, the pencil holder will be held a fixed distance from the rail. Regardless of if the bottom or the deck is being marked, the rail/bottom guide will always be held against the bottom and the rail.

For marking a deck, the tool is used by first setting the desired distance from the rail, then adjusting the rail/bottom guide for the max thickness of the board. The angle of the pencil holder is set (lower angle for foam; higher angle, up to perpendicular, on glassed board). The tool is started at the nose or tail, and one hand holds the rail/bottom guide flush against the rail and the bottom while the other hand adjusts the pencil for pressure and thickness. The tool is moved along the board, keeping the rail/bottom guide in contact at all times, until the end is reached. Then the angle of the pencil is reversed, back to the starting end of the board again, and the process is repeated for the other side.

For marking the bottom of the board, the rail/bottom guide is removed and flipped over. It still rides the bottom of the board and the rail, but now the pencil is on the same side as the bottom guide. No depth adjustment is necessary on the bottom, the pencil is simply oriented to one side or the other of the bottom guide, and the tool guided along the bottom and rail with one hand while the other adjusts the pressure on the pencil tip.

It may sound a little cumbersome at first, but then at first so does the idea of adjusting depth and angle of a planer on the fly. :slight_smile: The results are worth it in the end though, perfect cutlaps and pinlines every time. The bamboo inlays and pinlines on the board we used for the photos were marked with this very tool. The purists may scoff, and in the case of a good tapered cutlap or pinline they’d be right, but this has made it possible for me to do a pinline without wasting a whole afternoon “eyeballing it” for perfection.

Thanks to Jeff (joyride here on sways) for “modeling” for me.

In the interest of economy of scale, I (stupidly) thought it would be just as easy to make a few extras while making my own. Countless were the times I wished I hadn’t, as it was a monumental pain in the ass to go through every step twenty times instead of just once. A few are already set aside for gifts, but the rest are up for grabs.

Unless foamez wants to order 10,000 units injected molded in taiwan, I will never ever make these again. Way more hassle than I ever expected. Once this batch is gone, they’re gone.

They come in exactly the form you see in the photos, mechanically complete, but cosmetically unfinished. I’ve got them functional, and I really don’t want to mess with them any more. Besides, anyone with the kind of personality to shape their own surfboards would probably enjoy taking all the square edges off their own rail tool and making it their own. There’s lots of “extra” wood on the main body which could be sculpted into a more ergonomic shape, fingerholes, etc… It’s birch ply, so it’ll take any kind of finish no problem. I’ll be very interested to see how folks personalize them, so if you get one don’t be shy about showing it off.

See new pricing info below in post #10

Also available are two “blem” tools, with wood whose veneer got messed up during the build process. Mechanically perfect, but not up to my cosmetic standards. PM me for info on those.

Howzit Shwuz, Nice tool and kudos to you for the ingenuity building it. But I must say that once you start doing them by hand you’ll never look back.Aloha,Kokua

Sure it’s complicated enough?

Dear Stingray,

As I sit down to write this letter, I look fondly back at the good times we had together…

Ha! :slight_smile: No really, it’s not as complicated as it seems at first. I really did make it as simple as I possibly could and still have it be as functional as it is. Once you run through it a couple of times it’s way quicker than trying to get things perfectly matched by eye.

And yeah, I understand the sentiment of the value of being able to do it by eye. But for folks like myself who might only do a few cutlaps or pinlines a year, there is definitely some value in being able to get great results without having to go through the “lay tape, eyeball it, pull tape, lay tape, eyeball it, ad infinitum…” process.

I love your work. This is not an insult or put down…Please post more photos…your boards are Awesome!

Paul Jensen…thank you Paul…

http://www.swaylocks.com/resources/detail_page.cgi?ID=341

Swaylocks RESOURCES…I was passing out copies of Pauls tool at the last camp out…

I never made it to Master Painter in the car world but I’ve taped off quite a few classic rides and hot rods. Sometimes you just have to go with the flow…It’s quite common for the right side to be slightly off from the left side.

It’s all good…

I use my Paul Jensen tool on a regular basis. I also come back and eye ball the project later. LeeV can do really clean pin lines and he doesn’t use a tool. 3M tape is your friend…

Ray

Your tool made quick work of another board for me this week.

I’m pretty sure you’ve saved me about a half-dozen hours and

a few cat kickings…that’s like 10 grey hairs right there.

Yeah, I’ve seen that before… Paul Jensen’s tool is the ultimate in simple function. He is definitely the grandpappy of fine woodworking here, and the very reason I found sways to begin with. I have nothing but respect for him, but I have always felt that type of tool, even ones as well-made as Paul’s, were lacking in their precision. It requires very nearly as steady a hand and eye as just drawing a line by hand, so they were only as precise as the person running the tool.

The issue I have with a tool like that is that it leaves too much “wiggle room” in my mind. If you raise or lower the rail guide while drawing your line on the deck roll, the pencil tip moves closer to and away from the rail correspondingly. I know, I started with a tool like that. I was never happy with the results I got, so that’s what brought me to this point.

Hello Shwuz ,

I like your work and I understand your point of view. My rails and outlines are far from perfect. A perfect tool will only makes things worse if it is tracing my less than perfect outline…That’s one of the reasons I love to play around with the air brush…Have you see my fake stringers???

Ray

Ha! too funny, and true… A perfect tracing of imperfection is imperfect.

So, after posting in the heat of excitement in FINALLY finishing these things, I’m re-analyzing this deal. I think I came off a little sales-pitchy in my initial post, and my asking price, well… It looks ok next to the $84 graduated calipers they sell at foam-ez, but not really in keeping with the spirit of sways. I think I got caught up in the idea of being able to recoup the cash I’ve been in the hole on these things for so long, and got away from the sharing of a new idea that motivated me to begin with. Fact of the matter is, if I was going to get paid for the time I put into them, nobody would be able to afford one. :slight_smile:

So, here’s what I’m doing. I took down the swaybay ad. The folks who have already ordered one (you know who you are, and thanks a bunch!) will get a partial refund as soon as the cash clears to my paypal (I think swaybay does it the 1st and 15th of the month?). I’ll figure out later how much to discount those initial sales.

As for the remaining tools, here is the new deal: If you want one of these tools, PM me with an offer reflecting what YOU think it is worth. If your offer exceeds my break-even for materials cost, tack on $10 for shipping and paypal fees and it’s yours.

Merry xmas!

really nice tool, but don’t ever think for a second that it is a coincedence that all my cut laps are the always the same width as the distand from the bace of my thumb to my second knuckle on my free hand,

For Goodness’ sake

I got the Hippy Hippy Shakes

Congrats. Over engineering of this tool time and time again.

Hey watch it! I bought one!

And you know me…I’ll re-engineer and mod the crap out of it! LOL

I’ll trade you three of the rail marking tools I snuck out of Ray’s give-away-box for one of yours. The rest I"m selling on E-Bay. Kidding, Ray. I only took one and it suits be just fine, thank you very much. You’re a clever lad, Schuz. Mike

It’s really not over-engineered if you consider the limitations of the simpler rail marking tool.

Here’s an example.

A standard 90-degree rail-marking tool with the guide held 90 degrees to the floor:

The same tool with the guide slightly tilted, as can easily happen when guiding it by hand:

The difference (highlighted with a sharpie to make it visible):

I did try this style to begin with, but like I said, it just didn’t offer as much control as I wanted. While my tool is definitely more complex than the simple 90* style tool, it doesn’t leave any “wander room” because the bottom guide keeps the rail guide at a fixed angle relative to the rail. This is the very simplest solution I could come up with to solve this issue to my full satisifaction. Some of my prototypes were WAY more complex!

Wow Shwuz! That’s a hell of a “square” ya got there!

Don’t worry…I’ll re-over engineer it enough for all of us!

Hey Shwuz, did you get my last email about the “parts”?

Nice tool! If you get to tinkering again, see if you can figure a way to roll on tape instead of just marking a line. That would be a tool that even pros might buy…

As far as my taping skills: Thanks for the props Ray, but you must have me confused with someone else. My cut laps are passable for a hacker but my pinlines…let’s just say, width is my friend.

Crap Lee! Now you got my head going!

Sh*t! Now I’m gonna have to figure out how to make that!

DAMN YOU!

For the tape, just lay it close and switch the pencil for a razor blade…Or two…

Keep it simple…

Don’t make me make one, I’m busy enough…