Hey, I have this board from the 60s that I'm fixing back up and I was wondering about the type of paint used. This board was a popout and has no stringer, no names, nothing on it regarding who shaped it. When i bought it, it had some paint sanded off of it near that tail and I did some ding repair and cut out and filled a nasty delam. I want to paint it back to its original state so it at least looks nice when I take it out. here are some pictures.
Howzit Mr Clean, I would have to say that there are not many who know how to do it and it is definitely a lost art. Would be interesting to know how many others know how to pull it off besides the 4 of us. I was just thinking about the old Dewayne surfboards that just happened to be based in Walnut Park ( next to Hunt. Park ) on State St. They would lay up mat glass in a half mold and then put the 2 half together and then shoot the liquid foam in to the hollow core and it would expand but they would already have the rail seams sealed so it wouldn't blow apart. I think it was Velsy who took the 2x4 and stuck it through the deck when they challenged anyone to hit the board with the 2x4. They weren't ready for some one to do that and it was at one of the Santa Monica auditoriums surf fairs in the 60's. Aloha,Kokua
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...it is definitely a lost art. Would be interesting to know how many others know how to pull it off besides the 4 of us.
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In the late 50's and through the 60's, it was the common and ordinary production method to do panels, and stripes. (as you know) I have no idea how many times I used the technique. So, I hereby apply for membership in the ''know how to pull it off club.''
Howzit Bill, Well that makes 5 of us and I bet a few of the other older long time builders have done it. Like I said it is a lost art. Aloha.Kokua
how many do you have to do to get in the club?
Its a fun board, and what I really like about it is the wooden nose and tail blocks, well I had to cut a new tail block but I think it's a cool combo of foam, fiberglass and wood.
Its a fun board, and what I really like about it is the wooden nose and tail blocks, well I had to cut a new tail block but I think it's a cool combo of foam, fiberglass and wood.
Back in the late 60’s I worked at a big factory in Jacksonville Fla. that made Popouts,Customs and blew their own foam. It was called Glass research. I got to be friends with an Australian guy who was the main color guy and glosser. He was the one who showed me how to do opaque resin panels on sanded boards. On the popouts he would get them from the sander and proceed to tape off the rails for the gloss coat. Next he would tape off the board for the opaque colored resin panels.All of this color work was done with gloss resin and pigment. He would paint on the color panels and wait for the resin to gel. As soon as the resin gelled he would pull the tape. When the resin was about as hard as cheese and the wax had risen he would then gloss the board. No sanding required.It was like a dance and all about timing. So basically a full deck color job including gloss had maybe 15 minutes total labor.That method still works. Kokua knows how to do it as does Jim Phillips and Sam Cody. Have fun out there. R. Brucker
Well I ended up finishing it but not color matched or anything I just wanted to get it out, I had one of the best rides ever on that thing, sooo much fun.
Cool. Looked like a fun project. Amazing that a board nearly 50 yrs. old could still get out there and do it!
There was a Shaper of sorts for the old pop out boards Someone who skinned the blanks and sanded off the rough edges of the blank. Nobody in their right mind would ever say that this unknown person was some sort of Craftsmen.
No, there was not.
The old style Sixties popout blanks came out of the mold with a layer of fiberglass mat impregnated into the foam’s surface. There was a ‘halo’ of glass fibers at the rail seam which was ground off, but there certainly was no ‘skinning’ involved as the skin was the first layer of glass. Sixties popouts involved no semblance of shaping whatsoever once the blank left the mold.
SammyA is bang on, about the ''hard shell'' popouts, as we called them. Many were hot coated and glossed with color. No additional glass, just resin over the hard shell. Hard to imagine things were done that way, but they were.
Thanks Sammy. I was just noting that popouts do frequently have shaper's names in today's world, and boards are frequently painted after glassing, again, in today's world - which would most likely be the frame of reference for the o.p.
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I can't really tell from the pictures. Maybe a resin opaque, maybe paint. Either way you can definatly paint that bo9ard and that is what I reccomend. Sand it throughly down to a fine enough grit that you have no swirls or scratches from sanding. Most automotive paint stores sell a rattle can spray prime that is high solid and hide. Tape it off, prime and paint. Spray on a clear coar and you are good to go.
There's a soild layer of paint on this board, when I was sanding around the dings, I had to sand through the paint before I saw any cloth.
Of course there’s no name.
That’s because:
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No one (shapers) put their name on boards back then
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There was no “shaper”. ** IT’S A POPOUT!!!**
Anyway…It probably has a pigmented resin coat. Do you know what resin smells like when it’s sanded? That would be a major clue.
Follow McDing’s advice on sanding. Given the fact that it’s a real junker, I would simply get some red epoxy spray paint and give it one or two coats. It is hardly worth the time or expense of doing any resin work just to get a uniform color on it.
Haha, whoops, sometimes I zone out when I'm typing, I know there's no shaper. I was just gonna do a hot coat over the sanded area and take it out after i finish glassing the tailblock i cut for it and glued on since it was missing it when I got it. I'm gonna get some paint on there when it gets a little warmer out.
Then why did you title this as:
“A question for shapers who shaped in the 60s”
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That board, and your questions about paint, have nothing to do with shaping.