Just looking to get some info on this board,custom order,stock board or maybe something else? Maybe 1967? Any insight would be helpful.
Thanks Dave
Hynson on the left, Frye on the right. (in the above photo)
**Never looked at those guys in the this shot really. Rights looks damn good and then the boards on Stoners Comet (?) but your right.**
**The hair gives them away wonder who's in the photo!**
**Aloha**
Oldphart shaper,
I assume that was a tongue in cheek response, since it is not labeled as a Hynson. Does 67 sound about right?
thanks Dave
While it isn’t a Hynson, per se, I’d say it’s definitely from the period when the red fin was popular. Mark Fragale would probably like it. He collects three stringer boards as his ‘specialty’.
I like the red border around the label. Just a little something different. Otherwise, a classic board from that era.
How’s the bottom look? Is that water damage or just wax crud up near the nose?
And yes, 66-67 would be my guess.
Sammy, the pics are from when my brother first got the board, mostly wax crud and dirt. There is a ding with water damage on the nose, and some minor dings on the board. All and all pretty good shape with more sun damage on the bottom. Spending those couple of summer months leaning against the cottage in the New England sun back in the day. Thanks for the response.
Dave
**Shadydave,**
**That is a Gray Propper nose rider yeah? Cool.**
**Absolutely about the "tongue in cheek" as Hynson's hair was somewhat famous from the Endless Summer.**
**Skip Frye has kinda curly hair and just plan logic, just never noticed them before (in the photo)! **
**Both Fyre and Hynson are on top of my list of "surfer/shaper”. Both have style and you can tell each without anyone telling you, the style each had was exclusive to each and I should add Billy Hamilton in here, another "stylist" (HA! surfboard model really). Any way these guys get to surf and shape and we should ALL be grateful that they did and do! Very creative talent and given the freedom to create and we would not be where we are today without them. **
**Aloha.**
I may make an offer for this single fin G&S- haven’t seen it in person yet, but my concerns range from it being overpriced (he’s asking $500) to the fin box (I have to assume that’s a later addition.) He said it’s 60s-70s era.
Thoughts?
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in my opinion-- not worth that kind of money, and will probably surf like crap to boot.
Yeah I wouldn’t have any serious expectations as to how well it surfs - I have a pretty diverse quiver and I think this would be a fun addition. I’m more concerned on price. Seems like the vintage board market is all over the place. I’m not in a well known “surf” region, so you don’t see a lot of vintage stuff in good condition around here.
What makes you think the box was added later? Your first pic gives a pretty good idea what the board looks like. The second and third pics are so tiny they aren’t of much use.
That board was not bulit in the 60s. I’d have to say that the seller knows very little about surfboards if he guessed that.
Here’s what I know
That board was built some time between 1973 and 1976, maybe as late as '77. It is very typical of a mid 70s G and S. The outline, the tail, the color job, etc
Plus, by that time damn near everyone was using the FU fin box still in use today. So,if it has that kind of box it’s a safe bet it’s original.
The only way it could be worth anywhere close to $500 is if it could be proven that Skip Frye shaped it with his own two hands. If not, it’s a $200 item.
I think it’s a pretty nice board and would surf well for a board of that vintage. Lots of other boards built back then are far worse in design, materials and construction. G and S was an industry leader during those years. Few brands of the period had the same pedigree.
It looks like a model they called the “Summerfish” . Close to a fish in plan shape, but longer, narrower, and just one fin.
BTW…what’s the length? Do you know?
I assumed the box was an addition due to info I found on another thread on another site, but there’s definitely a higher caliber of knowledge specific to these boards here, so thanks.
I read another thread on this site though, that said something about stamped S/Ns vs handwritten ones. I can’t tell if this is handwritten or stamped.
Thanks again for the info.
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This ad is from around 1974-75. Third board from the right is a “Summerwing” . Same outline as the Summerfish, with wings.
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6’10"
The serial # is obviously hand written, and the board is a 6’10"
Says so right there. Last three numbers.
Yeah I may not be a vintage board expert but I did manage to figure out it was a 6’10" (maybe you didn’t see my earlier response).
Anyways, thanks.
Gand S were cranking out 100s of those boards in the mid 1970s G and S was like a training school for shapers a lot of the people in the San Diego area got their start at GandS. Our own Ace worked there. Gary Mcnabb started there. Not sure about Rich Pavel. In the 1960s and 1970s G and S employed a lot of people. They had a tons of shops up and down the east Coast that they were shipping boards to. Seemed like for a couple of years you could swing a dead cat without hitting a G and S Board. I will say that they had pretty good quality control on they’re glassing. I will agree with sammy on the price. there are tons of those boards in basements and garages up and down the east coast. Everyone who finds one thinks they have found gold. I have since some from that era asking over $1000. If it were verified Frye or Hynson shape in near mint condition I could see the high price but really a board shaped by who knows who from an era of mass produced boards is not worth $500. offer $200 and if you really really want the board $250 max. Me I would go with $150.00
Thanks artz-
Yeah you don’t see a lot of vintage stuff that’s not all beat to hell up here in Oregon, so the guy probably thinks he’s got more than he actually does. On that same note though, I think locale can demand a small premium for that same reason (i.e. if I saw that same board on Craiglist in L.A. and had to have it I’d be spending who-knows-how-much to pick it up or ship it.)
Anyways, all good info. I wouldn’t have paid $500 for it regardless, but now I can go into it a little more educated if I decide to pursue a purchase.
Cheers