hi, all…
anyone know where i can pick up a roll of K-glass?? none of the Florida materials suppliers stock it, and even Fiberglass Supply is sold out. i have a bunch of boards to glass in the near future, so i need a full roll, and i’d rather it be K than E.
ANY IDEAS???
does anyone know who even makes this stuff, and how i might be able to get directly in touch with the manufacturer???
peace be with you…
~ brandon.
Why, at K-MART
of course.
No, but you could try Hexcel, it looks like they have a Georgia #, 706-678-1556…
you could ask JPS glass but I don’t think they make K?
http://www.jpsglass.com/contactus.htm
let us know if you find some.
Fiberglass supply. I SPIT ON Fiberglass supply. Do a search on the web and they come up over for all kinds of surfing supplies. But send them a e-mail and ask a simple shipping question and get nothing in replay . Three times. Nice way to do web business . I’ll NEVER give them a dime of my money!!! I would like to know wheres a good reliable place also.
Aloha Soulstice
In case you or others didn’t know…
It should be easy to find but likely not under that name. It is simply flat plain weave fiberglass. Most weavers make it. Nothing special at all. Other than the lack of twist in the strands that most builders are commonly familiar with.
The K was from Dave Kershaw’s name who did a great job of marketing it under the K-Glass name. The flat weave makes for very strong thin laminations that can be very light if the laminator understands what he is working with and how to use it.
It has great impact strength due to the fibers being directly held in linear column. But the lack of twist makes it difficult to wrap around curves. The twist in strands make them more flexible and also compressive like coil springs. The linear untwisted K-Glass lacks this and boards made with it, often buckle more easily because the strands don’t compress and under similar stress can suddenly buckle rather than slowly absorb the stress and distribute it along the strands.
Why do you, want to use K-Glass?
Interesting, I thought K-glass was what here we refer to as Keperweefsel.
In the image below the first image is what they call square weave, or flat weave. The second is Keper weave which is said to be easier to laminate over rounder features. The bottom picture is a heavy flat weave or woven roving.
What would you guys call the middle one?
look for style 3733 flat weave 6 oz. or 7522 flat weave 4 oz. BGF makes it too.
style 372 from SGTF is what fiberglass supply carries
They are all still E glass, just a non twisted weave.
thanks BB and NC … learn something new every day.
Bill –
i didn’t know the flat weave was more prone to buckling. three of the boards i’ll be glassing are made with a very flexible foam/stringer combination, so buckling is a bit of a concern.
my search through different glass types led me to a BGF cloth with a 6-oz fiber in the warp direction, and 4-oz fiber weft – specifically to reduce the likelihood of a buckle.
do you think a glass like that is better than standard 4-oz warp enhanced glass?
Hoeleechite. Fiberglass supply is a piece O’ cripe. I ordered from them three times, anyone want to guess how many orders they screwed up?? You guessed it- all three times. Shipped wrong resin, forgot to include parts of the order and my favorite, shorted me on cloth. How frustrating is it when you go to lam a board and come up a foot short? My duckets have been going elswhere since.
I think it goes without saying, but, I spit on Fiberglass Supply too. Huuuuuuck Pitteewwey.
-mw
P.S. Brandon, Don’t know about K-glass suppliers. Good luck tho.
Fiberglass supply. I SPIT ON Fiberglass supply. Do a search on the web and they come up over for all kinds of surfing supplies. But send them a e-mail and ask a simple shipping question and get nothing in replay . Three times. Nice way to do web business . I’ll NEVER give them a dime of my money!!! I would like to know wheres a good reliable place also.
Hmmmm. I’ve only bought from them once, but they answered both my email inquiries by the following day. That said, I do not see much evidence of Web literacy on their part. That may have factored into your experience somehow…
-Samiam
I believe that middle weave is called 2x2 twill. I see it offered more in carbon, kevlar and hybrid cloths as seen here:
http://www.shopmaninc.com/carbonpage.html
second cloth down.
Leads me to believe that it is mostly beneficial to aesthetic appeal of the finished part (because you can easily see the above three cloths in a laminate). However, maybe one of the seasoned pros on here can enlighten us on whether this theory is actually true or not.
As long as you were taken care of .That is what matters.
That didn’t come out as It was meant
So If I wanted to go on line and Order 6 oz cloth that is well suited for all around surfing. The “Industry standard” What weave am I looking For??
…in the early 90s I d glassed with Hexcel W glass + normal layer at once…
aesthetic: very poor the wash in the W glass after long period
so, you obtained some visible strands here and there after several months of use
mechanical:yes, rigid cloth, but somewhat brittle for my taste
when I d used without the combo, I didnt like it
Howzit Waldo, I can't say for sure but a lot og factories use wapr glass due to more glass strands in the length for added strength.Aloha,Kokua
So If I wanted to go on line and Order 6 oz cloth that is well suited for all around surfing. The “Industry standard” What weave am I looking For??
Aloha Waldo
4 or 6 oz, E-Glass, Silane Finish
Pain, Twist weave
(these are called different names sometimes but you should be able to find it easy as it is very, very comon stuff for surfboards