I know there is a simple answer to this question, but I just can’t figure it out. How do you get the lines to curve around like a traditional fish tail? I have been rotating the yellow and red points, but all I can get is a ‘V’ like a swallow tail.
do you see the red dot on the top part line that and the line its on with the stringer
but im still having a hard time with aps too
just search the past posts and you might find something helpfull
just mess around tull you get something you like
hmmm…let’s see if i can’t post a pic
nope. there is no proper way to create a fish tail with APS.
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nope. there is no proper way to create a fish tail with APS.
That’s what I suspected. I guess I’ll have to leave it like a swallow tail and then free hand draw the fishy curve after printing it out.
You don’t need it. The crack is the last thing you should shape into the fish anyway because of the chance of breaking a tip. Get your outline with the tail width you like, use it to shape your board, then use any curve laying around that appeals to you(French curve, old fin, nose template from your favorite thruster, etc)to finish the crack. Does that make sense? Mike
Does this help?
Tuck the red point into the blue at the corner, and drag the yellow into the swallow to get the swallow’s inner curve…
just have to un-check the “continuous” box for the bottom left point. nice job.
Soul, I don’t really even know what that does–I’ve never un-checked that box–I had to look around to find it–I unchecked it on one and messed around a bit and I still don’t know what it does.
Shrug. But…
Merry Christmas
Greg
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what i want to know is how your getting the picture of your templates on here???
jank… it defines whether the curve is continous or not. when the “cont” box is checked for any set of points, the blue point will be the apex of the curve, and the red and yellow will control the arc. notice that when you move either the red or the yellow up and down, the other one moves with it in an opposite direction, maintaining the continuity of the curve. when you uncheck the “cont” box, you can move the red and yellow points independently of one another. so to make a curve on the fish tail, the blue point is your pin, the red controls the curve of the rail approaching the pin, and by moving the yellow point perpendicular straight up from the blue, it adds a nice curve to the ‘inside the butt crack’ area of the fish tail.
native… just take a screen shot. SHIFT + PRINT SCREEN copies an image of whatever is on your computer screen to the clipboard. then, just open a graphics editing program (like “Paint”), and paste the image [CTRL + V]. crop it down to size, save the picture, and post it up.
Ive been lurking for a while and finally have found something that I think i can help with…
Using the yellow point on the lower blue point (at the point of the swollow tail) drag the yellow point up to the middle of the board directly above. Then move the red dot on the blue point in the middle of the board towards the nose. See the tail of my board attacted. Hope this helps!
Trey
Thanks, Soul! You know, I’d always wondered a little bit why some points were free, and those curves weren’t, ah, continuous(!)
greg
FWIW, Rooster has stated the correct, real world, on the shaping racks, answer. Simple, and practical.
Not really–in my world, visualization is a GOOD thing. Having a picture of your final product/goal is SWELL. There is no down side, and signifty up-side. (FUN is one–try it!)
greg
EDIT: And here’s the real deal: it’s the difference between having an infinity of curves to play with as you plan your project, or having to make do with one off a fin after you’ve shaped the rest of your board. What fun it is to generate the exact one you want (or several to choose from) as you play with your template. I have a bunch of different fish drawn with a bunch of different swallows. If it were hard to make them, maybe I’d say do it an easier way, but it’s effortless and fun!
I mean if you don’t like playing with surfboard templates, that’s fine (well, not really–what’s wrong with you?!?)
thanks soulstice,
didn’t have the print screen button on my laptop… good thing i got a new computer.
The best visual IS, I say, IS, pencil lines drawn on a surfboard blank. It’s the shortest loop in the design process. From the mind, through eye/hand feedback, to the blank. And with a reasonable amount of skill, a finished surfboard. Now THAT is fun. Rather than looking for nit picking points of disagreement, in a post that was an affirmation of the easy and practical way to get the task accomplished, you would do well to give thought to how your attitude portrays you. I’m baffeled why you are not able to let a positive, supportive, experience based comment stand, without taking issue. But gosh, if it’s because you just don’t like me, I’ll be SO crushed. But I’ll understand
The Fish design eludes most shapers…Ya, they look cool and all , but generally don’t do what it was intended to do.
Most shapers over shape them…You’re thinking too hard…FEEL !
Herb
Thanks for the tips everyone.
I haven’t had a chance to sit down and try it out on ASP yet. Christmas day has be been fun and busy.
Merry Christmas!
Re: APS 3000 Fish Tail Question: Glad to be of assistance, swied. Merry Christmas. Have fun.
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