are we done yet?

It seems that we’ve answered most of the questions re board design and construction in the archives. I think we’ve caught up with ourselves. I think that when we answer all the obvious questions we start to explore new directions. Isn’t that where progression starts?

It seems that we’ve answered most of the questions re board design and > construction in the archives. I think we’ve caught up with ourselves.>>> I think that when we answer all the obvious questions we start to explore > new directions. Isn’t that where progression starts? tom, Yes, with all due respect, it does seem that Swaylocks has been chasing its tail on a number of levels for some time now… What new directions do you suggest? Thanks. Dale

…Round,and round,and round,whirrling ,around.Herb

To me there is a recurring theme in discussion rooms: the novelty of discovery, the excitement of participation and then the long road of redundancy. You have to remember your initial involvement to keep up the enthusiasm. I’ve only been here a few months so I’m still pretty euphoric about this place. I’m an ultimate believer of cycles or waves in all things. Maybe this is just a trough for you. I’m still just dropping in. Just paddle out the back and wait for the next one! Newbs

About the time I think we have covered it all, Herb tears apart a diaper!

i predict the next great contributions to swaylock’s will come in the form of questions. (don’t necessarily expect them from me[smile]) i believe there are still some technical/procedural issues related to construction that have not been documented. special lamination and glassing techniques specifically. but it may not be fair to expect someone to share, free of charge, something that they have developed over long periods of time, through hard work and trail and error. these questions will probably not get asked (out of respect) unless someone thinks they will be answered. there are really 2 classes of swayaholics; those who make their living from surfboards, and those who just love it as a hobby. it is interesting how we co-exist sometimes.

anybody see the board Donovan has in the new mega-Surfer that’s currently out?looks rather stealth bomber inspired with a radical bottom which looks to be a double concave with a keel fin type setup?>>> i predict the next great contributions to swaylock’s will come in the form > of questions. (don’t necessarily expect them from me[smile])>>> i believe there are still some technical/procedural issues related to > construction that have not been documented. special lamination and > glassing techniques specifically.>>> but it may not be fair to expect someone to share, free of charge, > something that they have developed over long periods of time, through hard > work and trail and error.>>> these questions will probably not get asked (out of respect) unless > someone thinks they will be answered.>>> there are really 2 classes of swayaholics; those who make their living > from surfboards, and those who just love it as a hobby. it is interesting > how we co-exist sometimes.

As far as redundancy and being “finished”, I’ve seen the same question asked quite a few times. But there are always new ways to approach an old problem – plus answering question over and over is a great way to learn. Beyond just technical questions there are so many areas yet to be uncovered and documents. History & geography and sociology of surfboard design & manufacture are areas that have much to be uncovered, discussed and documented. The other area I want us to get into is to somehow ORGANIZE all of this vast body of information that has accumulated here. I know I’ve made big talk in the past of a print publication, but that is coming together slower than I anticipated. What I’d like to implement sooner is a user contributed organization method. Something like an index of sorts where threads are registered in a directory like index. Not quite sure how to do that most efficiently. mike

As far as redundancy and being “finished”, I’ve seen the same > question asked quite a few times. But there are always new ways to > approach an old problem – plus answering question over and over is a > great way to learn. Beyond just technical questions there are so many > areas yet to be uncovered and documents. History & geography and > sociology of surfboard design & manufacture are areas that have much > to be uncovered, discussed and documented.>>> The other area I want us to get into is to somehow ORGANIZE all of this > vast body of information that has accumulated here. I know I’ve made big > talk in the past of a print publication, but that is coming together > slower than I anticipated. What I’d like to implement sooner is a user > contributed organization method. Something like an index of sorts where > threads are registered in a directory like index. Not quite sure how to do > that most efficiently.>>> mike You know I too often grow tired of reading the same questions on the same material covered just a few weeks (or even days) ago—but the truth is all progression comes from reviewing a seemingly exhausted subject—this is true in science,art,music,journalism,and it will (and has been) in surfing ----there is always another twist or tweak that can improve it all. I have templetes over 35 years old but what I do with them now is all together different and as someone else said what about that diaper stuff news to me so for the sake of us all I say keep the stoke and keep the hunger cause it’ll keep you looking and somebody PLEASE HELP MIKE organize this stuff, heck we all would love a copy—I would help but my way of organization is called organized chaos—I’m the only one that can fiqure it out and sometimes I’m not so sure of that…

As far as redundancy and being “finished”, I’ve seen the same > question asked quite a few times. But there are always new ways to > approach an old problem – plus answering question over and over is a > great way to learn. Beyond just technical questions there are so many > areas yet to be uncovered and documents. History & geography and > sociology of surfboard design & manufacture are areas that have much > to be uncovered, discussed and documented.>>> The other area I want us to get into is to somehow ORGANIZE all of this > vast body of information that has accumulated here. I know I’ve made big > talk in the past of a print publication, but that is coming together > slower than I anticipated. What I’d like to implement sooner is a user > contributed organization method. Something like an index of sorts where > threads are registered in a directory like index. Not quite sure how to do > that most efficiently.>>> mike Mike, Check out the forums below. I guess you could create forums like Glassing, Shaping, Color, Tools, etc… but it seems that once you create these groups you’ll start seeing other categories and sub-categories then the list becomes endless. I like seeing some of the same questions pop up because the experts here might be thinking differently that day and approach the answer in a different way. I think sometimes we get to a better place because someone asked it again. I want a new blank. Surfore http://www.robgalbraith.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi

Maybe we could look at this site as “Swaylocks University” there are a lot of good teachers on this site and there is also a lot of great stuff in the archives.When you were in school and asked the teacher an interesting question did they cut you off and say “read the text book”? No they usually got stoked that someone was interested I have only been around for a few months but the ongoing discussion is a delight,even if it covers some of the same old stuff.As C.D.B. says it stimulates thought and takes us in another direction,I have come up with some crazy stuff in 30 years of board building and am always after something new.Swaylocks lives.

As far as redundancy and being “finished”, I’ve seen the same > question asked quite a few times. But there are always new ways to > approach an old problem – plus answering question over and over is a > great way to learn. Beyond just technical questions there are so many > areas yet to be uncovered and documents. History & geography and > sociology of surfboard design & manufacture are areas that have much > to be uncovered, discussed and documented. This question reminds me of a Jerry Garcia story I once heard. Seems he said that sometimes he would play a song show after show, sometimes for years, and then one night onstage he’d suddenly understand what the lyrics meant. And at the same time, supposedly the Grateful Dead wouldn’t publish lyrics with the albums/cds just so they wouldn’t confine/define the experience of the listener. Which is not to say some readily accessable indexing wouldn’t make life easier down the road… Nels

tom,>>> Yes, with all due respect, it does seem that Swaylocks has been chasing > its tail on a number of levels for some time now… What new directions do > you suggest? Thanks.>>> Dale I don’t think we’ve covered the dryer repairman’s possibilities w/ cleannline’s lady after those rocks start breaking loose.

Mike: I’m just thinking out loud, as there are problems and flaws in anything you can come up with. What if an Index of topics were available, choose the link to the topic, post beneath that topic which in turn adds to the depth of the topic and keeps any additional replies indexed appropriately. There may be some method to maintain a “Recent Post” list which displays topics with recent activity. This has all got to be within the Gossamer Threads coding of course, saw this on another board recently.(see www.casitaclub.com) Tom S.>>> As far as redundancy and being “finished”, I’ve seen the same > question asked quite a few times. But there are always new ways to > approach an old problem – plus answering question over and over is a > great way to learn. Beyond just technical questions there are so many > areas yet to be uncovered and documents. History & geography and > sociology of surfboard design & manufacture are areas that have much > to be uncovered, discussed and documented.>>> The other area I want us to get into is to somehow ORGANIZE all of this > vast body of information that has accumulated here. I know I’ve made big > talk in the past of a print publication, but that is coming together > slower than I anticipated. What I’d like to implement sooner is a user > contributed organization method. Something like an index of sorts where > threads are registered in a directory like index. Not quite sure how to do > that most efficiently.>>> mike