Being a Green Surfer...

I saw this online, and found it thought provoking…

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I just get tired of this enviro approach sometimes.

I was in surfboard factory awhile ago and there was a rep there trying to sell some bio foam from the homeblown works here in the UK, he went on about how the blanks were 35 % more carbon friendly than normal blanks. I was determined I was not going to say anything but in the end I just couldn’t hold my tongue any longer, so I just made the fact clear that the growth of surfing, inso much that people travel from London to Cornwall (250 miles) for a swell in 4 wheel drives doing 25 to the gallon just can/t balance out no matter how many bio foam blanks you sell , plus the blanks are still produced specifically for surfboards rather than use something like eps or extruded foam from another industry.

Look at the pro tour, how many competitors fly half way around the world to get knocked out in the first round plus all the spectators who come from everywhere to watch , who gives a toss about the environment here , the tour is basically to sell the image and products of surfing.

We all like to go on surf trips with no thought to the environment, is somewhere like Bali a better place because of surfing , I don’t think so, not just a carbon disaster but a cultural one as well.

Just to make things clear, my car is 15 years old and averages 67 miles to the gallon, I don/t wear branded surf clothes or even unbranded surf clothes for that matter, the last poly board I had I used for 15 years and that was second hand in 1990.

The enviro bit is just over done in the surf world, unless you can walk to your local break and use a locally grown wood board, shaped by hand and oiled using plant oils then it’s not even worth talking about.

As long as there is money to be made the world will be plundered and raped.

I know these are strong words but if you look at your own cultures, America first, the red Indians lived that idyllic nomadic life style, that can be lived that way for millennium, the buffalo herds kept them alive so if they killed too many their way of life suffered so a balance was achieved to sustain life, China was the same, sustenance farming, just enough to live.

New Zealand was the same with the Maories, living with nature and a sustainable life style, or Australia, who knows how long the Aborigines lived that way and could have lived that way for more thousands of years, until we came along.

This is the only way to live long term and it’s just too late to turn the clock that far back.

I just cringe when I hear envrio words in the same sentence as surfing, your carpet is man made materials, so is the couch you are sitting on , your vinyl kitchen floor covering, the seat in your car, the computer made from plastic etc, no one gives a hoot about these thing but these are in every home , I am the only surfer in the street where I live of about 100 plus homes so my impact is so small it is insignificant.

I agree with doing things on a personal level and this is what I try to do generally but surfing is growing through different aspects of the media only because there is money to be made from it and money and enviro issues don/t go hand in hand, cynically.

Although I agree with the guy, it makes sense to try and reduce our impact as much as possible. I use biofoam, I think it’s great that homeblown are trying to cut down on their carbon footprint as much as possible by making the stuff. They aren’t trying to give you a marketing gimmick, or tap into the green/eco market to make more money for shareholders. Tris is a good guy and is doing biofoam for all the right reasons. There isn’t one realistic solution, but every little bit helps doesn’t it.

I’m all for people giving the drive to Cornwall a miss though.

Some valid points by the author.

BUT

#1 There is no such thing as a Green Surfer!

  Is there a green doctor? green tennis player? green photographer? green cab driver? 



  <span style="font-weight:bold">NO</span> 

We’re all human beings making individual choices in each and every aspect of our lives.

#2 Choices:

 Unfortunately, humans don't have many choices regarding the environment at this point in time.  

Can we choose to fly or drive to surf desintations in zero emissions transport? No - maybe some day…See next post.

Can we choose to participate in Swaylocks discussions without a computer made from petroleum based plastics? NO - maybe somday…

Can we choose to surf a board made of 100% sustainable materials? Not yet but I guarantee in the next 3 years we’ll be able to choose to add one to the quiver and get stoked riding it.

Can we choose to do what’s better for the earth and our cuture with current technolgies and methods? YES we can.

#3 Politics

 No comment 

#4 Economic Considerations

See #3 

All in all, Everyone can choose to do what they feel is right for their lifestyle, within their means as well as social and political views.

I could go on and on but I gotta get back to investing all my time, money, blood, sweat, and tears into developing materials that will make 100% sustainable surfboards.

You know why? Because I choose to! It’s right for me.

My small contribution to the sport (lifestyle) I love.

Prediction: this post won’t hit 1000 views.

~Brian

www.greenlightsurfsupply.com

Future surf mobile:

I donated my time to help a group of inner city automotive high school students from West Philadelphia develop this Zero Emmisson, 100% battery powered (brand new technology) 3 wheeler prototype for Ford’s “Model T Challenge”

A step in the right direction for the future of cars…

EPS shaped one piece body - glassed with Bamboo and epoxy.

The students did a wonderful job.

More info here: http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/04/watch-out-x-prize-contestants-these-high-school-kids-are-winners/

No mocking how it looks! The kids built this thing in only 8 weeks. Amazing by any standard.

~Brian

www.greenlightsurfsupply.com

how’s the flex?

bla, bla, bla, bla, bla…

Pompus ‘green’ morons like this are worse than the surf industry kooks they hate.

I agree with Tej and Greenlight, that while there is no 100% green surfer everyone should be trying to do what they can.

There are no 100% green surfboards, but there are definitely GREENER surfboards. epoxy is greener than polyester (far fewer VOCs). A balsa/epoxy compsand is greener than a PooPee glassed 4/4 deck 4 bottom which is toast after 1/2 a season.

As far as the pros, they have a career that requires travelling, but I know for example that Kelly Slater buys carbon offsets, so he’s funding alternative energy.

That said, the author does have a point about transportation. I read a book published by the Union of Concerned Scientists, called “Consumer’s Guide to Effective Environmental Choices” and hands down the number one thing anyone can do for the environment is to examine their personal transportation habits- the car you drive and the amount you drive. Number two was to eat less beef. Industrial production of beef is a major pollluter.

So, yeah, lose the V-8’s and even the V-6’s. Get a Hybrid or ride a bike and eat your fruits and veggies.

while I was reading this thread

I was folding a paper bag

from esteban’s surf shop

in bidart to make a special

note pad so I wont waste

the cool paper from this

french brown bag.

this paper is way cool

…ambrose…

Thanks for that well thought out example of grade school level name calling.

Enjoy the rubbish (trash) filled cesspool that “the OB” is rapidly becoming and keep on keeping on being proud of it.

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bla, bla, bla, bla, bla…

Pompus ‘green’ morons like this are worse than the surf industry kooks they hate.

Hey Ian

Wow! Apparently you didn’t buy all those bamboo fin panels from us for the “green” sustainability aspect of bamboo.

By the way, you had some interesting fin designs on the bamboo fin making thread. How did they turn out?

Thanks,

~Brian

www.greenlightsurfsupply.com

Wouldn’t the Hawaiian’s that invented surfing, not modern Hawaiian’s, but those from a few hundred years ago have been the original “Green Surfers”? They made boards and boats out of raw materials, mind you, they weren’t the finely tuned devices we ride today, but they surfed green none-the-less. It is all about how much each of us can contribute, or how little we can get by with in today’s world. Unless you live like a caveman, each and everyone of us is impacting the environment. If we try, we can all change the world we live in…

Hopefully the majority will try to change it for the better, not for profit.

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Thanks for that well thought out example of grade school level name calling.

Enjoy the rubbish (trash) filled cesspool that “the OB” is rapidly becoming and keep on keeping on being proud of it.

I guess you don’t learn about adjectives on the Sunshine coast. Pompous being the key word.

Why knock down people who are trying to make a difference in the industry that he hates? Why knock the people who are the agents of change?

My problem is not with sustainability, conservation, and the Green Revolution (which I am a proponent and ‘member’ of) my problem is with hypocrite pontiffs who think that they are core because they don’t wear surf cloths, drive a high mpg car, and ride a 20 year old surfboard.

P.S. OB isn’t becoming a cesspool, it has been for years, and it is much better now than it was 10 years ago. Except there are too many people.

Thanks for posting that Paul,

After reading the article I could see that this guy is just as frustrated as a lot of others who listen to all these stereo types and labels that get attached to something, and then when it becoming all the rage, everyone likes to relate the issue to themselves by “hopping on the band wagon”.

I once read that Global Warming as it has been referred to is a multi-billion dollar a year industry. With all the marketing and lobbying avenues It would seem that would be very likely I suppose. I find that interesting.

Anyway, I don’t believe that attaching a self proclaimed tag to a surfer, or any other activity inclined folks is a solid choice of ownership one would have to take to be green.

So here’s my two cents, not to sum it ALL up, but maybe spin this about a little bit.

I once read in a Buddhism philosophy book that a practicing Buddhist is to be mindful of all things around him/her. In this case I think the best examples would be to have as little enviro impact and leave as few foot prints wherever you go and whatever you do. Whether it be surfing or not. Car pool, well planned and thought out surf trips… maybe not every time but more so than you have been doing. Pack in, pack out… and maybe pack a bit more out that you showed up with and help remove some litter. A little by a lot goes a long way… or something like that! HA

Or as we do things up here in my neck of the woods I leave you with the motto of our Olympic National Park

“Better still, leave it cleaner than when you arrived.”

I have a problem with this

…Zero Emmisson, 100% battery powered…

Sure the car is “zero emmision” but what are the batteries made of ? How do we get power into the batteries? Does that cause emmisions?..

My Toyota gets 28 mpg city ,it’s two years old. Looked at the new upgraded version today and it gets 25 mpg city. Why less mpg? Bigger engine. Doesn’t make sense.

I’m not a tree hugger… but

Reduce , reuse , recycle…that’s something I believe in

Ray

seems to me at this early hour of the morning, THAt we don’t really need GREEN surfers we need Greeen People----everyone needs to become more aware of their personal effects on the enviroment. as surfer, it would be nice if we cut our carbon footprint—but until we can, how about we all TRY and cut our personal effects? i ride my bike to surf , with my five year old surftrunks, and my Eps/epoxy resin/wood fined Bonzer to ride my local break—that sort of counts as an attempt–maybe?

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I once read that Global Warming as it has been referred to is a multi-billion dollar a year industry. With all the marketing and lobbying avenues It would seem that would be very likely I suppose. I find that interesting.

In the U.S. the whole “green thing” is being co-opted by the media-celebritard-corporate blob…the “green” in “Green” is becoming $$$$$. And nothing makes money like selling Fear…

I’m sure I’m not the only one who has had a bellyfull of “green propaganda” and then finally gags when there is some stupid surf industry self-congratulatory gibberish issued and reported…with all the real issues out there it is a bit appalling to read about how some multi-million dollar company gets an award because they started a program to recycle all the empty energy drink containers…which any self-respecting surfer should have been taking home to recycle anyway.

green is the next bubble

it’ll burst too…

alas haven’t seen too many green computers/telecom systems out there recently…

so what gives…

computers and anonymously typing on them is ruining the world…

I like peeing in my shorts sitting on the lineup because that means a big set is coming.

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bla, bla, bla, bla, bla…

Pompus ‘green’ morons like this are worse than the surf industry kooks they hate.

silly post,

I can’t see how, with all the marketing crap in the surf industry, somebody can pick on someone who is trying to sell a ‘green’ product.

it’s a free market, if you don’t want it, don’t buy it.

it’s not as if there’s a gang of marauding ‘greens’ chasing you with a pitch fork, so what’s the problem?

some people try and make a difference, and a buck while they’re doing it, and others just seem to accept impending doom, i.e. ‘there’s no turning back now’

bad attitude on this issue and thread.

When I’m in charge things will be different.

Amen Brother!

It’s all about the sheep