Broke my veneer board

This 9ft board had a perimeter stringer and plywood rails. I took it out in overhead waves at the weekend and

it broke on the paddle out. The first big wave snatched it away from me when I turtled and that must have

left it vulnerable to the lip of the next wave in the set. There were a few other boards broken that day and

I noticed that a few were Surftechs(no stringer). I built the board without a center stringer and I am beggining to think

that was a mistake. What do you think, was I just unlucky or would a center stringer have helped the board handle

the wave.

Woulda helped a little, but all boards can be broken with the right impact. A stringer resists some, but the twisting and delam occurs all around anyways, so it’s not a guarantee non break by any means. Plus a bit of weight.

I think you were ‘just unlucky’ - a 9’ board presents so much area combined with length that it’s gonna break on an overhead day if it gets caught wrong. Stringers don’t add all that much strength, especially compared to the rails, additional strength from the veneer skin and glass. Bear in mind that some of the other boards that broke were not surftechs and did have a stringer. But they broke just fine.

Basicly, from the amount of foam stuck to the underside of the veneer, I’d say you got an exceptional bond, veneer-foam, there’s no apparent failures of bond between glass and veneer… you did everything right too.

My guess is that a lip caught it smack dead center and there’s nothing of reasonable weight that would have survived that in a board that size. A center stringer…well, in the same situation it would have busted just fine, maybe sooner, as the inflexibility of the stringer relative to the foam would cause it to fail rather than flex. The moral of the story, if any, is that a longboard is more vulnerable to this sort of thing than a shorter board, simply because of the length and width of it.

Bummer- pretty board.

Hope that’s of some use…

doc

Yeah I think you are right, the waves must have been heavy, even saw a broken shortboard.

What do you think, should I try and fix it or build another?

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what a shame! that looks like it was a beautiful board mate, had you finished it long or had you had years of use out of it? (i’m hoping the latter of the two!)

I finished it about 6 months ago but have ridden it a lot. Now that I am thinking about making another I am remembering how much work it was

never mind the cost

10ft walnut veneer $80,1 sheet bending ply $28, 3 sheets EPS foam $25,

18 yrds 4oz glass $55, epoxy resin $50.

I am thinking it is much cheaper to try and fix it but it will won’t be very strong.

I went back to your original thread and have an idea that might be worth looking into. It has to do with the orientation of the grain in bending ply. I’m pretty sure that all the grain is aligned in this type of wood in one direction so that it can bend. I noticed that all your grain was vertical in the rails. I wonder if the bending ply in not designed to stand up to being bent that way. Notice how clean your break was… when I try to break real plywood it makes an ugly mess. You might want to look into putting a horizontal stringer in your next on (and maybe moving away from bending ply).

Ahmmm- to be honest with ya, I can’t think of how you’d fix it and have it come out anything but kinda aaaghly, and not especially strong. Let’s say no better than a small wave loaner board at best.

On the other hand… think of all you learned while making that one, and how much better the next one will be. That and the really nice gunny 7’6" you’ll build for those overhead days…

Now, I saw ‘10ft walnut veneer’ - can’t see it from the picture, but would that imply that the bottom was glassed only, say with 4 oz. glass and no veneer?? I’d bump it to at least six ounce all over next time, maybe times two. Not like it’d make a lot of difference, but it wouldn’t add much weight either.

hope that’s of use

doc

The veneer comes 4’ x 8’ so I was able to do top and bottom. Bottom had 4oz under and over and top had 4oz under and 3 x 4oz over the veneer.

I am going to take doc’s advice and build another one.

oh man, that sucks bro…I broke a board friday evening in Long Beach…was a good swell though…

hey marke

although a stringer probably wouldnt have helped much

a 5 mm core on your skins would have made all the difference in the world

vaneer isnt effective as a sandwhich core because it is to thin

Go for it, bro…just go six this time

doc…