Where might I see some of these Wayne Rich boards? Hes a legend, perhaps his boards ride lengendary?
PM to Surfore…he’s the man.
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Where might I see some of these Wayne Rich boards? Hes a legend, perhaps his boards ride lengendary?
Ventura Surfshop - A-Frame surfshop in Carp or call Wayne
805-252-0728
The best kept secrete is the R12 built by Wayne Rich. He’s in Santa Barbara. Get a custom from Wayne and you will will have a board that will be timeless.
Plus he rides a longboard better than any shaper I know so he know’s what he’s doing!
i was watching scratching the surface today today and loved the cj footage. in softer beachbreaks you think this wide board will be manageable? perhaps slightly smaller all around and with a round pin?
I think the width and size of the board will give it an edge in smaller mushy beachbreak. Small nose boards noseride better in clean pocket surf, the CJ has that ultra fat wide nose that will support you pretty much in anything; flats, pocket, shoulder and mush. The noseride will be slower but a little more versatile. But this is where I am torn, whether i want something that will allow the noseride no matter what, or something that will really make me work to get those ten piggies over, and make it that much sweeter.
I am curious, what rides higher while on the nose, a smaller nosed Pig-like board, or something like the CJ with that 20" nose and wide all the back?
so- buy yourself a board and ride it! There is a nice 10’ CJ green resin tint at used at Arrow in Santa Cruz for $500. You live in Hidden Hills? I went to Round Meadow Elementary (in 1964!)
Wow, I graduated Round Meadow Elementary in 2000. What prompted the move to Santa Cruz?
I emailed the guys at Arrow, they said new its more or less 600. So in the next week or two Ill be ordering myself up a new 9’9. I hear thats a good size. I figure for 100 more I can get it perfect dimensions and brand new. I just have to decide on the colors…
How much do the Wayne Rich boards go for? most likely too much.
Thanks you guys for all the info.
Ahh, surfers as businessmen. “More or less $600” could be $900 or $599.
price tag on the website is $785
20" nose? seems like a crutch…
That nose is wide, but the proof is in the pudding. CJ Nelson kills it, and its I think its no coincidence he won the Noseriding chapionships on it.
That 785 price is so high due to the resin work and the size, I think they base for about 600.
It’s not that hard to MAKE your own GOOD noserider (in my opinion)…I like to think that noseriding is me “Specialty”, and I modeled most of my noseriders after my Cooperfish. I’ve come to like my own noseriders even better than my Nose Devil. This IS Swaylocks after all! Try and shape your own, you can get answers to ALL you questions here…Here’s a little clip of me surfing a homemade board in VERY small surf, but you can get an idea of it’s noseriding ability…
Oh i know. I made a board that was supposed to be my NR this summer. And it rides alright, certainly noserides better than my Kane Garden. But its nothing special. I have never owned a brand new longboard, much less a professionally shaped Nose Rider, so i think its time i get one so that i really have something to compare my future boards too.
Like you said, you made a board based on your nosedevil, and it rides extraordinarily. I need a board to be my base.
BTW, is that NoseDevil worth the wait and the money? It looks amazing and i have heard the ride is incredible.
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Oh i know. I made a board that was supposed to be my NR this summer. And it rides alright, certainly noserides better than my Kane Garden. But its nothing special. I have never owned a brand new longboard, much less a professionally shaped Nose Rider, so i think its time i get one so that i really have something to compare my future boards too.
Like you said, you made a board based on your nosedevil, and it rides extraordinarily. I need a board to be my base.
BTW, is that NoseDevil worth the wait and the money? It looks amazing and i have heard the ride is incredible.
In my opinion, yes it IS worth the money/wait…GREAT noserider. I think the BEST noserider I ever owned was a 9’4" Takayama “Joel Tudor Classic Stepdeck”, but it actually broke in half in an unfortunate accident in 2’ surf! I wouldn’t trade the one I made (that I’m riding in that video) for ANYTHING…Not even a “Creme”… 
I had a C.J. model, bought it used at the Arrow shop. Sold it after about 5 months, it was a dog. Sounds like the Green tint board mentioned previously. You can ID it by the dark tint, the tint color was very uneven. I put white and black pin lines on the top. I wonder if the guy I sold it to last year is selling it again. Doesn’t sound good if a relatively new board changes hands so quickly and frequently. Sorry I did not like this board for a couple reasons. This board is strictly a small wave nose rider. And it liked a particular type of wave at that in order to perform well. I had trouble keeping it under control on anything with a little size. Also, I thought the rocker on my board was all wrong. It was hard to catch waves if you were not in exactly the right spot. Too far back, missed another one, move up just a little, oh no, pearled again. C.J. is a great surfer and this board was designed around him. It works great for him, but not for me. It all boils down to what you expect from a board. Try different boards until you find one you like. Trouble is, in today’s economy boards can get expensive.
Everybody likes something different, but I’m not a fan of those shovel-nosed, concave Pearson’s. I’ve owned and surfed several of them from 9’0" to 9’6" (though not the CJ model) and found the big, wide noses to be a real impediment to trimmed-out pocket adjustments in anything with any size or juice. Also, the concaves on the ones I had, in combination with his rocker, made them bog and push water when you’re standing within a couple steps of the nose. I prefer a narrower nose with channeled concave and more rail volume. The rails of his long boards tend to be too thin and bladey for my taste. Maybe he does it to reduce swing weight, but for me, the trade off isn’t worth it.
As stated elsewhere, above, true dedicated nose-rider designs tend to be pretty much one-trick ponies. The combination of a lot of width, a fairly parallel-railed outline, eggy rails, kicked tail, otherwise-flat rocker and a big, large-area, upright pivot fin become limiting factors when you’re doing anything but standing on the tip.
I have a 9’8" noserider (not a Pearson) that I sometime ride when it’s small and mushy, but it’s anything but an all-around design and certainly isn’t my “go-to” board if I’m unsure of what conditions I’m likely to encounter on a given day.
Does the CJ have turned down nose rails and uprails in the tail? Also how long is the concave?
The Arrow CJ model is not a wing nose design, so it does not have turned down rails in the nose. I believe the concave runs at least 1/2 way down from the nose. I can't check the exact concave length until I get home. It's a very blended concave, there is no visible transition at the end of the concave.