Do-it-all shortboard

I’m going to be ordering a board this fall and want something in the 7’2" range.I’m 180 6’0". I need it to paddle as well as possible so I want to go as wide and thick without loosing too much performance.I’m surfing big winter beach break up north with a 5/4 and I’m going to be taking off on big waves, doing alot off duck diving and need something that can do it all.Any models to look for? would 21" be too wide for a 7’2"? What are some good widths and thicknesses for a 7’2?

Here’s a pic of my good wave size board to give you some ideas. I think the dimensions are 7’2" x 19" x 2 & 1/2".

Nice outline… whats the dims off the nose and tail?

We’re probably surfing a lot of the same waves…where channels are rare and the only thing you can count on is a lot of non stop paddling and duck diving interrupted by some haul ass waves…

First thing I would suggest is huddle up with your shaper and discuss what you’re trying to do, and see if he has a good solution.

In direct response to your post, will assume that if you’re considering 21" wide, you’re definitely looking for a solid, dependable board that PADDLES, so suggestions based on same…Board width should relate to how you surf, however, so:

If you’re a rear foot surfer and tend to surf further back on your board, and like to surf more vertical, suggest you have the board shaped in the 19.75 to 20" range, as rear footers usually do better with a bit straighter template curve. A little more tail rocker will help loosen up the board. Can’t go wrong with some light panel V.

If you’re a front foot surfer who rides more forward and likes to run the high line, additional width will create more template curve, which works well with front footies. Add in a longer spiral V so you can roll it rail to rail easily from up front, and double concaves will straighten out the rocker and provide more speed. Would suggest 20.25 to 20.5 width.

Once you start getting into the 21" range on a 7’2 winter board, you’re starting to get into the Fun Gun range - which can be a lot of fun if done right.

180# in a 5/4, boooties, and a quart of water still inside your wetsuit from that last duckdive, and you’re probably putting close to 200# on the board. Personally, I’d reccomend at least 2.75" thick, even 3" - makes it that much harder to snap the board, and you can always have the rails foiled out sufficiently so you can still duck dive the board.

And for a winter board, can’t go wrong with a rounded pin with a nice curved finish.

I’m thinking 21" is too wide for a 7’2" beachbreak board. I’d put the absolute limit at 20", but I’d recommend going closer to 19.5. You’ve got the length, so if you keep some volume along the stringer… 2 5/8 to 2 7/8… and slightly dome the deck, keeping the rails “medium” you’ll have plenty of float for paddling. Foiling the nose pretty thin helps the duckdivability, but I’d keep some foam in the tail.

One thing that’s going to determine the paddling ability is rocker. Think about the shape of the waves you’ll ride it in most. Is it more important to haul a$$ paddling (flatter rocker) or be able fit it into the pocket and snap some tight turns (more rocker)?

Everything’s a compromise. There is no “do it all” surfboard design. (Except for a fish! HA!)

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Everything’s a compromise. There is no “do it all” surfboard design. (Except for a fish! HA!)

What about a McCoy Nugget. I’ve been riding a 6’4" for the past few sessions from knee high to overhead bowls and I can’t fault it.

How bout the Wayne Lynch freeform? 7’6" x 21". These look nice.

How bout a Channel Islands M-13?

I have a nice 8’ m-13 for sale…good in big beachbreak if it’s clean…does this happen in Oregon?! Given that I’m not getting to Moss that much anymore, I don’t surf it much (and never did). I wouldn’t recommend this board for waves under shoulder high unless you’re a big person or have the skills to throw a big/floaty board around in such.

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I have a nice 8’ m-13 for sale…good in big beachbreak if it’s clean…does this happen in Oregon?! Given that I’m not getting to Moss that much anymore, I don’t surf it much (and never did). I wouldn’t recommend this board for waves under shoulder high unless you’re a big person or have the skills to throw a big/floaty board around in such.

How does it ride.What’s your weight & hight? What are the dimensions?

From the CIS website: 8’0” x 22” x 2 7/8“…sorry, I haven’t bothered to measure the other d’s…but will if you’re interested. I’m 210 lbs and been surfing for 25 years…It’s a little corky, light, and stiff for me in most of the waves I’d want to ride it in (sound like a familiar complaint about tuflites?), but like I said previously, is a nice board in clean hollow waves. I wouldn’t ride it in under shoulder high waves or bumpy big waves.

I borrowed my friends 7’4" Wane lynch on a surf trip in the picture.Loose and fast but not so good in heavy head &. 1/2 +surf.The tail is wider,nose is skinnier, rocker is about the same,and the fins are off the rail more than the M13

I have owned a few 7’6"M13’s.Very solid in bigger surf and fun.The 8’ M13 is more like a long board corky.

I like a 7’2-6" 21wide 3 thick for most days at OB in SF.And I am 6’1" and 180lb

My compromise board is this