Double Checking Measurements

Hello Everyone,

Like most newbies, I’ve been searching the archives for weeks about outlines, rockers, thickness etc. and I think I’ve mapped out a fish that will suit me and I wanted to run numbers past the elders.

First, I’m 6’4", 190lbs, shortest board is a 7’4" CI M13 type board. Surf 90% Oregon mushy beach break.

My plans are:

L: 6’9"

W: 22"

Thickness: 3"

Nose: 16.5"

Tail" 17"

Tail Rocker: 1"

Nose Rocker: 3"

Swallow Tip to Tip: 12"

Crack: 6"

Slight concave to double vee

Still undecided on quad or keel

I’d love to hear thoughts / suggestions.

Thanks!

IMHO…

Pull the tail in a a bit… like an inch. You’ve got plenty of volume for your size and conditions. But when it gets a little bigger, you’ll want a bit more control.

I’m into quads lately.

…here we go…again

hello,

a 6 9 is not a fish.

-if you want a fish feeling a not a “kind of volume small board” do it a 5 11 x 22 x 3 tapered out to tail, 60/40 s rails

and with 4 fins not keel fins, that kills your surfing, mostly backhand

remember tapered to tail, very thin

the tip of the tail is only 1/4 (foam) so you go from 3 to 1/4"…

5 11 x 22 x 3 is not short is a big fish

like I said in other threads, I have a customer who is 1.85 or so tall 92 Kg weight and surf a 5 10 x 22 x 3 with plenty of floatation

—the fish is not a design for a rookie surfer or a not so good one to really “use” the possibilities of the design

Thanks for the tip. How much would you suggest pulling the tail in?

…your other meassurements are pretty closer

the tail outline depends on the general design

the purpose intended for the fish

for example quick small turns in decent waves do a bit more curved tail outline and less inches tip to tip

etc

I understand that my 6’9" is not a true fish, but for the types of waves we have and the 20lbs of rubber we have to wear I think this shape will work well.

I’m looking for speed and long drawn out turns. I have other thrusters when it gets overhead and I doubt this will get ridden in anything over 8ft.

I would suggest a 10" tail from point to point. I have surfed oregon and also the North East with 5 mil suits you do need the extra floatation but 12" seems a little too wide.

Hey J - In case no one has said it: Welcome to Sway’s. I’m just down the coast. Check your P.M… I’m no fish guy, but I’d be glad to offer help if you want.

Cuttie,

If I understand it correctly, the less distance between the pins will make it

a little snappier on the turns? Leaving it would then make it a slower turning board?

Thanks for all the help!

Reverb said something that you might want to pay attention to. Fishes are not for rookies or not so good surfers. They aren’t really easy boards to surf well and they’re not that fun (imo, in most conditions) unless you can surf them well. The length of the board you’re describing will only make it harder to surf.

I think you would have much more fun on the board you’re describing if you put a round pin tail on it. It’ll turn easier and better and I think it will just be more fun.

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Reverb said something that you might want to pay attention to. Fishes are not for rookies or not so good surfers. They aren’t really easy boards to surf well and they’re not that fun (imo, in most conditions) unless you can surf them well. The length of the board you’re describing will only make it harder to surf.

Either I’m a hellofalot better surfer than I think, or someone has got something wrong. A fish certainly need some adjusting to as it’s surfed differently, but they are definitely alot of fun for not so good surfers like me. Or maybe we just get those conditions where a fish is fun alot around here?

There are plenty examples in the archives of people building big fishes and they seem to be pretty stoked about them. That said, most likely you can go shorter than you think. If you want to go with the length you have planned I would suggest adding a little bit more nose rocker to make the board fit better in the wave on takeoffs.

regards,

Håvard

Those dims are good for a 5’9’‘, but not a 6’9’'. Oversize fish need the tail to pull in some to avoid getting

a very parallel outline. If you try to draw it up off those dims you’ll see how hard it is to connect those dots

on a 6’9’’ and get a good curve.

I like my fish short like reverb. But I know bigger boards are at home in the Northwest, so I understand what

you’re trying to do. IMO, go 16’’ tail, maybe a touch wider than 22’ to add some curve, and definitely put 4 re-

moveables on it so you can play with fin combos. Tip-to-tip 10’‘-10 1/2’'.

A couple of the true fish legends make and ride boards in that size range. I don’t think I have to name names.

Check out what their boards look like, you’ll see what I’m talking about.

I have to second Harvard’s thoughts. They’re pretty easy to ride. Paddle pretty good for a short board and get up to planing speed quick. Riding ‘good’ is so subjective I cant comment on it. Mike

Thanks for all the inputs, I’ve attached what I’ve come up with. The lines look very fish like and I’m happy with the size as well.

Also, could people point me in the direction of concave and vee discussions? I’m not quite sure if I should leave this flat or add some slight concave to vee on it. Fin discussions would help too

Thanks for the input thus far! I start cutting foam tomorrow and will start a new thread about it! WOO!

J