Drowning with a legrope on. Legropes.

When we first started using leashes, we used 1/4" rope and drilled a hole in the back of our skegs. Then we just had a slip knot to keep the rope onto our leg. Someone started using surgical tubing to soften the pull around our legs, and then it evolved into the hawaiian sling model, where a section of surgical tubing was filled with a longer length of rope and when the board pulled, it would stretch for a while then come flying back. A small improvement over the harsh jerk of the solid rope, but much more dangerous when the board flew back at you. Quite a few guys were speared by their boards, or impaled by a fin. Many boards were damaged when the line pulled and cut into the tail. Many legs and ankles were bruised from the harsh pull of the rope. The modern leash has evolved so much, with the swivel links connecting the leg strap and board to the line. The rail saver piece saves the boards from the damages we used to have all the time. 

Just sew a flap onto the end of the velcro that wraps around and sticks so it won’t stick and gives you enough to grab. An inch or so would be enough. Wear the leash around the leg just below your knee. It’s easy to reach and pull off.

As much as I hate the long swim to get my board, I still don’t like what a leash can do. I hate it when the leash gets wrapped around my forward foot and then I can’t move my legs around. I have to do that silly dance to get the front foot free, and sometimes that’s enough to keep me from making the wave. I hate when the leash gets under the board and then gets caught in front of a fin. I find that I can surf for a couple of hours without ever having needed the leash. Then again, if I had a leash I would have gone for something I probably wouldn’t make, but held back because I didn’t have a leash.

A couple of thoughts… you shouldn’t be out in surf if a wipeout is going to be harsh enough to drown you. You should be able to handle the hold down, the twisting and turning, the over the falls again action that often occurs. If you can’t handle that, don’t go out. A leash will not save you if you can’t handle the turmoil of the wipeout. Now add to that the potential of your leash getting twisted around you maybe just your leg, maybe worse. You better be able to handle that as well. I’ve had times when I could tell the leash got wrapped around me in a bad way and that when the board pulled it was going to hurt. I had seconds to grab the leash and hang on to keep it from tightening up and messing me up. Sometimes you don’t have that time, or you can’t grab the leash before it pulls. That can kill you. I’ve been out on days that were right at the edge of my ability, and have taken clean up sets on the head, getting shoved down so far and then realizing there’s no board at the end of the leash. Then I have to swim in with a leash dangling from my leg. Had that one happen more than once, and ended up surfing the rest of the day with a leash wrapped around my waste like a belt.

Every time any one of us paddles out there is a very real danger that you could drown.  Anybody who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves.  All you can do is work to minimize the risks.

When its your time, its your time.

I got lucky years ago fooling around on a 60s noserider in waist high surf.  Perched on the nose I caught an edge and fell in front of the board.  The board hit me at my hairline.  Somehow I remained conscious and stood up in the waist deep water and got to shore.  Nobody was around and no leash.  Had I been nocked unconscious I surely would have drowned.  I was left with a concussion, parted my scalp at my hairline and I got two black eyes from the trauma to my head.  To this day I don't know how I remained conscious.

Update.

The idea is to make a simple minimalistic design that could be injection molded to make a very cheap item that can seperate a rider from his legrope to save his/her life, if the legrope is trapped underwater.

 The 2D design is a 'gate' pattern where the legrope is bent into a small curve and inserted from above into the gate at the red line.The legrope is released and flattens to follow the green dots.

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 This allows the product to be quickly attached / removed / swapped to any legrope, and because the legrope is manually compressed for installation its most unlikely to accidentally re-compress and allow the product to fall off.

I considered lots of designs for the basic shape and gate design,  and I can see that there may be better designs than the one Ive chosen.

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 It was obvious that to avoid accidental damage, the legrope could only be straight in a state of rest , so the product needed to form around a straight legrope.

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With a 3D design the product sits on the legrope without changing the stretch or overall function of the legrope.

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The latest version has sides to strengthen the overall shape.

 Ive contacted a few legrope manufacturers but no one seems interested, in one way I can see that they couldnt be bothered doing anything new, but at the same time, it'd cost cents to save a life.

 I take one with me every surf and with more time I can make it better.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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 First time ever for me in 45 years of surfing....

Happily surfing off a point on an average day and suddenly Im held down due to a trapped leggy, and after clawing at my ankle strap like a frenzied animal to save my pathetic, but precious life, I thought Id ask the brains at Sways if they knew of a better solution for the common legrope.
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I had a first today - got caught inside on a clean up set and "rag-dolled", when I came up for air my leash was wrapped tight around both legs.  Felt like a houdini moment!  I'm like, stay calm, unwrap legs, breathe later...

The following accident happened in the first week of May 2010 and recorded in the Raglan Chronicle as well as all of NZ’s newspapers. I offer my condolences to Mr Nobles family and wish to use his unfortunate death in a positive way. I have not sighted a Coroner’s report that may have identified another cause of loss of control so I can only surmise that he was trapped by his legrope. My major point is that from what I can remember, Raglan rocks are rounded boulders of volcanic origin, getting my legrope caught there would not ever been a consideration. Jump rock didn’t have a name thirty years ago, when I last paddled out there,  so I cannot say specifically that it is all round bouldered around what the locals call Jump Rock. However, we do not have coral like outcrops that may catch a legrope. This, IMHO, highlights how easy it is to get hung up.  Secondly, did anyone purchase on of those safety knives and test it on a legrope? They definitely look like a good idea to carry when surfing over rocky ground. Google safety knives and look for the ones with the hooks.

“early morning surfers were reeling last
week after learning one of their own
had come to grief and drowned at
Manu Bay’s Jump Rock in a freak
accident they’re at a loss to explain.
The disappearance of 62-year-old John
Noble, an avid surfer fondly known as “old
man Mo”, went unnoticed until it was too
late.
When discovered, he was being held
down under the water by his leg-rope which
was tangled on a rock. John’s surfboard
was spotted by a teen from Raglan Area
School’s Surfing Academy, and although
surfboard-maker and friend Ray Finlay tried
to resuscitate John it was to no avail.”
May 7 edition of Raglan Chronicle 2010.

 

MrT

Do they still make chords with quick release pins attached to the ankle loop?  I had one 10 years ago.  I don’t use a leash often, but I have been hog tied like Huck and trapped in huge kelp glops in the Fall after the stuff is torn up from the first season’s west swells.  

Surfoils, how does your little gadget work?  Mike

Hi Mike, Im twartwed in finishing the design because of a lack of money, but Ive kept all the prototypes. The guys whove seen my idea in the flesh like it because its small and cuts a leggy instantly but Im still riding with a prototype.

  Its odd to hear people say that they could just reach down and easily whip their leggy off-no problem!

 And then to hear of another death due to the reality of how its obviously not as easy as first thought.

Its always a shame to see a life extinguished when solutions are readily at hand.

I’ve used both of these brands on my leashes. Never needed to pull them, but glad to know they’re there. The one time I needed one was before I knew they existed.

http://www.essentialsurf.com/ikorb.php?func=catalog&category_id=80&product_id=171

http://www.surfmorexm.com/store/default.asp?idCategory=HEYJEAGLDDWPDOUCSBUWJDCYIHSDPSQV

Hi surffoils,

If you ever get it to market I’ll take a look at one.  

 

Thanks Lance.  That’s what I remember.  I have a dakine leash.  I’ll get one before Fall.  My wife will kill me if I drown do to  a surf leash…

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My wife will kill me if I drown do to  a surf leash.....

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Hi surffoils,

If you ever get it to market I'll take a look at one.  

 

Thanks Lance.  That's what I remember.  I have a dakine leash.  I'll get one before Fall.  My wife will kill me if I drown do to  a surf leash.....

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 Hey Rooster, I used to be a nurse (when I was of an employable age) and something that saves lives doesnt have a retail price, or it shouldnt.

  I applaud Da Kine for having the 'ring release thingy' becaue it will save lives.

 My "widget" was/is going to cost cents to make and the plan was to hand them out for almost nothing. I approached several manufacturers with a humanitarian offer to supply my 'widgets' at cost.... Guess what response Ive received...?

Its like seatbelts, no-one wants them until they need them and then theres no price too high.

 So Lance, if I can get my thing on the market, I'll send you a few.

Hey surfoil,

In my experience, when you give something away for nothing, or next to nothing, that’s what people think it’s worth.  Kind of like the ‘free couch’ you put out on the street thinking someone might need it and recieve zero calls.  Put a sign on the couch for $25 bucks and someone comes along and steals it.  I think you should market your widget and try to make some money.  Make it ‘worth’ something.  You can always donate your share to a worthy cause.  There’s thousands of worthy causes. Mike

I'll probably go down that road in the end. I thought it was interesting that the few legrope companies I emailed didnt get back to me... Not interested if their customers die ? Couldnt be bothered to even hear me out ? The plan was that if I supplied the widget at cost then it could be put on every legrope for no extra.

 Like seatbelts, some sort of safety device should be on every legrope because preventable deaths are just dumb.

 

Not pointing at Mako, just wondering in general:

Doesn’t anyone have a backup leash in their “session saver” kit? (those of us that wear them)

 

“Session Saver Kit”:

Wax, wax comb, FCS key, 4-5 fin sets, fcs grub screw, Solarez, packing tape, duct tape, sunblock, small towel, diver’s knife, lighter, cable ties, parachute cord, dental floss, pencil & paper, $5.00 USD, pocket mask (whole new topic on that piece!) and … a leash.

All of this fits in a medium / small backpack alongside some scuba / snorkel spares with room for a wetsuit and can save your (or a buddy’s) session.

 

 

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Not pointing at Mako, just wondering in general:

Doesn't anyone have a backup leash in their "session saver" kit? (those of us that wear them)

 

"Session Saver Kit":

Wax, wax comb, FCS key, 4-5 fin sets, fcs grub screw, Solarez, packing tape, duct tape, sunblock, small towel, diver's knife, lighter, cable ties, parachute cord, dental floss, pencil & paper, $5.00 USD, pocket mask (whole new topic on that piece!) and ... a leash.

All of this fits in a medium / small backpack alongside some scuba / snorkel spares with room for a wetsuit and can save your (or a buddy's) session.

 

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That sounds like what I'd take......TO INDO!!!!!

Just kidding.  Seriously though I do 99% of my surfing within a short bicycle ride of my house.  A surfari for me is venturing to the south end of town or venturing an hour north to chase a swell.

As for the destroying a perfectly good leash thing I think people are missing my point.  My point is that there are leashes on the market that have an easy to deploy release pin.  You pull the pin and the leash detaches.  Its simple and effective.  Once you gather your board you re-attach the leash and you are back out in the lineup. 

If you are someone who is seriously conserned about getting your leash off in an emergency and given the choice wouldn't you as a consumer choose the leash that has the pull pin over a device that cuts a perfectly good leash in two rendering it useless.

I am talking strictly in terms of product marketability.

 

On topic: maybe 5 years ago, was out in pretty good sized surf, caught a few and pulled out safely, then got caught by the proverbial clean-up set paddling back out, got thrashed and felt my leash wrapped completely around my neck - instinctively wedged my hand in there before leash tightened, a moment of panic, but got it off somehow while still underwater. Not a good feeling...

 

Off topic: backpack contents: wax, wax comb, fin-bolts, screwdrivers, duct tape, assorted sunblock, chapstick, spare lease loops, ear-plugs, tape measure for fin adjustments, first aid kit (bandaids, tape, gauze, neosporin), magnetic key box and gate-keycard for a certain spot. Also, a tub with assorted fins, extra leash, rubber mallet (for fins), bungee cords, pull-straps, booties for cold water (rarely used), a couple of rashguards for warm water (rarely used).