It really isn’t the rocker that is the problem, since the board surfs like you would expect.
It is the volume ditribution.
The volume distibution is only felt while the board is not planing (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planing_(sailing) ).
This is exactly what you discribe
And Resinhead is 100% right.
AROG you are 5’11 200 pounds:
You insist on a 6’0?
Resinhead is 100% right!
I began to try and help earlier and posted a shorter fisher type board then deleted it when I felt it was a poor response on my part.
Ok you insist on building your own boards.
However you have made 6 boards so far.
Since your having some issues with the way your equipment is performing why not build something to increase your wave count and provide some performance?
I will give you a gift:
For your size try this:
This would be the starting point:
Next board would have a 13" nose and wide point 1" further up.
The model the way it is designed is to surf well however if you have talent issues it can be adjusted.
I can delete the post as well if it offends you?
US BLANKS 73A - RED FORMULA - 3/16" BASSWOOD STRINGER - ORDER THE ROCKER TO MATCH
Kind regards,
surfding
I appreciate all of the advice.
I am not insistant on 6’.It just was where I started from while riding a 6’ that I enjoyed.
I catch waves with the boards I made, its just a common thing with them for me to have to really scoot up on the nose. I agree it has to do with my size and what little amount of foam I have been working with.
I am here to learn and that is what I’ll do. I will not get offended by direction and instruction.
Resinhead, I would gladly take you up on swinging by to learn, let me know when and where.
Surfding,
I’ve seen you post those screen shots before and the rocker shots always have the board skewed. Is that just because the way machine cuts the blank? Not important just curious.
I shouldn´t comment this… but it is stronguer than me.
Surfding you are a surfer! I would sacrifice myself going to that spot in such conditions. Please, take me with you. Pleeeeeaase!!!
And that is a nice surfboard design, specially the outline.
Have fun. MIguel.
DMP:
It confuses a lot of people.
My rocker numbers are the Nose and Tail = ZERO.
It’s the curve I’m concerned with.
The Old School way with a rocker stick I can do and still do sometimes however I know the conversion factor from Shapers Values to True Math Values.
There the same thing just expressed differently.
And yes it’s the way the blank sits in the machine while getting milled.
Kind regards,
surfding
Miguel:
I’m just a has been.
I had my glory days in my youth.
Warm water now days because I’m just a big wussy in the cold.
In my Thirties surfing big empty left point breaks in Southern Chile in a 4 mil was doable.
At 53 I like to be in trunks to surf.
Making boards and seeing the young guns ripping on something you made keeps the stoke alive.
You seem stoked to make boards.
Enjoy the journey!
Kind regards,
surfding
Seems like tipping the rocker forward like that levels the top of the nose and tail so that a thinner slab of foam can be used to make the blanks.
H Arog:
Resinhead is the guy for you to hook up with.
He’s a very acomplished surfer and board builder.
Nice offer!
Kind regards,
surfding
Ok Surfding, you answered my question. Easyer(truth) for visual checking the way curve lines touch water. I allways put the shape in that position on the racks for avaluating(???) back part curves.
For taking numbers of a surfboard or working on the shape it comes tricky,doesn´t it? Yes, got you level bottom nose point and tail point and…(?)
Thank you, enjoy. Miguel
O.K. thanks, thats what I thought. I’ve sat and watched the APS cut enough boards to see that the machine might have an easier tool path to cut the nose rocker on the deck if the blank was tilted like your example.
But then again thats just a casual observation as I never focused on what the machine operator was doing to load a blank and start the process.
Thanks again.
There is an encyclopedia of Board Building Knowledge in and around Encinitas. Some will be willing to share the basics others will not so politely tell you to Fork off. Even those that tell you to Fork off have left you with evidents of their knowledge. look at the boards they make, you can learn from the curves and get a feel for what they are doing. You have to study boards like you were looking for to decipher a secret code. Once you have found the right way to look at a board it will all come together. At least you will be able to understand the code. Now you will need to learn how to compose a Board out of the knowledge. The true Masters of Board Building have all had mentors.
Some of the best in the board building world are right there in Encinitas. Bill Thrailkill, Jim Phillips, Bill Shrosbree, Gary Hanel, John Kies , Hank Byzak, Gary McNabb and so many others. All have somthing to offer and insight into Making a board that works on many different levels. A lot can be learned by just sitting in a corner of a shaping room and watching how they work. I would definitely take Resin Head up on his offer.
“Some will be willing to share the basics others will not so politely tell you to Fork off!”
Well Said artz.
Sure there are great shaper in NSD just like there are many greats in other surf ghettos along the California Coast.
Plus we have the East Coast, Gulf Coast then we have OZ, NZ, SA, SA, Europe, Japan, Brazil, Hawaii including the world over.
Like Playing the Guitar you either get it or you don’t?
You can go to University for 12 years and get a PHD in Music and you still might not play the guitar like Jimmy Hendricks!
If you persist on learning how to shape successfully then exposing yourself to others will help tremendously.
RESINHEAD has made an offer that is amazing.
He could help give you some insight on how you might improve your approach.
As long as it’s still fun for you then you have a hobby worth while.
Kind regards,
surfding
Hey S.D. -
I love that board lay out… Helps me feel justified in doing it that way for years, as was pointed out, It’s the way to use the thinnest piece of foam to make my blanks.
Plus - that a nice board to boot!
Thanks Taylor!
