"extr0vert"

 

“That will never work!”  He muttered as his logical, yet untrained mind tried to come to grips with the design. “It’s just going to stall, off the tail” Young Factory Grom observed.

 

His intuition served him well, for the design relies heavily on one important basic fundamental law of design ‘Give and Take’ to achieve ‘Balance’

 

Grom was looking of a sketch of a board design. One that I just sketched at my factory kitchen table, after a long day in the dust. I would have had this design in the back of my mind for 2,3 even 4 years but until now I would never have taken seriously let alone made it.

 Bugger it! I said to myself with an inner smile, an anxious anticipation and a new found energy …I can make this Work! And Work well, ha ha. I love a challenge.

 

4 pm, I’m back in the bay. 3 plus hours later it’s shaped from a raw blank, as always.

Straight up stairs, spray white, and with the magic of sun-cure and in house UV cure box my “Extr0vert” Design is ready for FCS fin installation, with a very hot mix.

 

Beer time relax and then sand the freshest of fresh boards. Done!

 

Happy but bewildered at the design, it must have been 2 am before I got to sleep.

 

Named the “Extr0verT”.

As you can see in the pic’s the outline is a standard small wave short board

 

5’ 8” x 18 1/2” x 2 1/8” squash

Fins standard five fin “quiver breaker” set up, can be surfed as thruster or quad.

 

Foam foil is also standard.

 

The whacked out difference is in the rocker-concave combo.

Tip to tail the board has a lot of curve.

For argument sake, Lets call standard rocker convex, simple... so the opposite is a concave rocker, cool!

 

The ExtrOverT rocker comes in at a slightly high nose entry the middle rocker smooth and consistent, however, once the rocker curve hits the 1/4 mark, up from the tail, being 17” for the 5’ 8”, it kicks drastically, then, the rocker drastically kicks the other way back down forming a concave rocker “opposite rocker”.

 

With so much going on with the “rail” rocker’s S bend out the tail I wanted to keep the bottom contours as neutral as possible.

I put a concave through from the nose running into a deep concave deepest at 1/4 up from the tail. The stringer line I kept at a radius of 24 feet (smooth consistent curve) Also I used this 24 feet radius curve running into and through the deep double also cutting through 1/4 up from the tail.

 

The nature of the rail rocker combined with the ‘Ark rocker’ concaves produced a bottom design – slight concave into deep concave into deep double concave into vee with a double in it then into flat out the pod (tail). Shit Hey… Any way.

The first surf was as a quad in 1 ft (at best) waves.

It was, to be honest surprising… hard off the bottom and straight up into the lip with front foot drive and extremely loose off the back foot, with a shit load of kinetic speed, it also held on rail great. As soon as you released off a rail carve the board would light up and accelerate and ping along to the next section… until you turned-carved it on rail at such a high angle it slowed, I figure the water would lap over the rail engaging the total “S” of the rail and, well… it slowed. This only happened when the wave went fat as and because the “bump” at 1/4 up allowed for tight radius turns-The board wanted and could be taken to the limit of rail carves.

It’s my go-to board now so thanks Grom for the inspiration. ha ha

I lent the Extr0verT to a local ripper for a comp, he proceeded to rip the bag to 2nd. Place.

 

Pics of the board





The Proof is in to pudding!

A few surfing shots.

sequence



bit of a whack


I like this sequence because you can see the weight change, He’s a strong boy, and he need not be for the board to do this but you can see as soon as he transfers his weight to the back foot the board zings out towards the beach.


I’m NOT saying any one is going to win world titles of even that it is a worthy design for the surfboard market.
It does have it’s quirks.
It goes good to great as a thruster quad and a 5 fin, you know the little slater guitar pic back fin. 5 fins felt real drivey and stable, I don’t think I was strong enough for 5 fins but it was fun.

To conclude this little design experiment, I must say it was fun rewarding and it really opened many new doors, The main one is to follow through on your ideas, no matter how whacked out they may seam.

The “Extr0vert” lead me to a design I call the “Concept” I have made about 20 now and they are being received good…so far.
When I get time I’d like to share it with you all, ha ha.

Cheers

Oh yeah I don’t think this thread would be complete with out showing you the original sketch, I’ll grab it from the factory and post it.


awesome shots! and a nice looking board

Keep at it Yorky, the design works. I got similar results to you, in that taking the tail lift out takes the brakes off. Of course the rest of the board has to work with it, but you will only get encouragement from me. Aeronautical design uses this feature on foils for improved performance, called 'reflex' and helps create lift and improve laminar flow, particularly on release. I came about trying it on advice from an aero engineer.

 

Keep at it. I wish I was playing too.

 

"To conclude this little design experiment, I must say it was fun rewarding and it really opened many new doors, The main one is to follow through on your ideas, no matter how whacked out they may seem."

Great thread Yorky - background story, explanation of design concept, photos highlighting the unusual contours, clear description of ride characteristics plus and minus, and topped off with mulitiple photos of the proof in the pudding - who could ask for more?  Hope we hear and see more of this little creative endeavor!

Hmmm…
Thank you for sharing that.

That's demented, yorky. We do the same thing on the other side! (I guess that means we're demented too)

Dude - It looks like you left your board in the sun too long and it started to melt!!

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noun Psychiatry .
severe impairment or loss of intellectual capacity and personality integration, due to the loss of or damage to neurons in the brain...........
....Wow ok.
I had a plan, executed it via my HANDS (not a copy cat computer design, lol lol) from my "brain" and achieved my goal.
"Demented"
mmmmm No I think NOT....CRAZY I'll accept that!
As for you guys being "Demented" NO.
A light, flat, late kicked, thin tailed, strong board that performs great for every days surfers....what more can you ask for....
Nar you guys are not demented..... A bit safe, but not Demented!
;-o

Yeah, this is the money shot hey!

I’m stoked on how this photo captured exactly what I was after.

 

Geez Yorky, are you shaping boards or pulling taffy?

Looks sick. Always stoked to see your boards York.

Doin’ it!

Great stuff yorky, good to see people pushing the envelope and doing new things.

 What does Mike mean when he says hes doing the same thing on the other side?  On the deck?

 

I reckon he meant at a 1/4 up on my design where I have the most curve he has a flat spot, then when my rocker starts to bend back down he puts more rocker. Out the tail of the Extrovert design where I put a “reverse flip” Mike flips the tail a bit more…Something like that maybe, ha…

Thanks

 

Thanks, But… Hopefully What is?..Not Who is? taffy!

 

lol heres a little storey about one of your boards Yorky,a mate of mine who surf with a fair bit had one from his teen years in his room,he has about twelve boards piled in his shed and still surfs everyday but this yorky was  and has been in his room forever,he said it was his majic board but he is now too big for it,another of our mates who is a bit smaller in stature recently nagged and begged him for upwards of two months to buy this majic board,he eventualy got so desparate he told my mate to name his price,lol $650 my mate said jokingly,to which my other mate replied "SOLD" he didnt take the 65o and settled for 300 but that board is now our other mates majic pride and joy board which he got barreled first wave on at half tide!