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It looks like an enlarged Lost rocket.
Check out this plank surfing
A keeled fish would be a poor choice for those waves in my opinion. Keels work nice in clean lined-up hollow waves(what board doesn't?) and would bog in that mushy shit. A quad fish might work better and is more user friendly in marginal surf. That's been my experience. And/or a longboard. Beautiful spot.
Pridemore,
That's a cool little board. One of your shapes? Mike
PRIDE more has the right ideal!
I used to ride a twin fin during the 70's on the North Shore and loved it. I Also rode a 6'0 pintail x 18 x 2 1/4", 6'6" wingpin, 7'0" pin tail and a 7'6" Cort Gion Pintail for big pipe.
You would be suprised to see how fast the fish was. I took it out in macking day just to mix it up a bit. Have a Fish in your quiver. You won't be sorry. If you don't have a quiver make one or just quit surfing.
I do. It’s just that besides my gun I want something in-between the other two. I want to sell my fish and shortboard and get something new and exiting. My shortboard just doesn’t paddle good so I never ride it.
6’2 x 21 x2 1/4
7’2" x 20 x 3"
6’6" x 19 x 2 1/2
Yeah, fish arent the ideal board for mushy beabreak type waves, people often think they are because of the fuller planshape but with the flatter rocker and wide tails, they just dont turn that well and when surfing shifty beachbreaks, you need a board to be able to turn and also to be able to fit into the curves of the waves...fish are better in lined up point type waves IMO....thats whay I did a design called the Fat-Bat, with a bit extra rocker, pulled the tail in, added some concaves , and added a quad fin set up and tweaked a few things here and there to create and all rounder semi-fish design that can still be surfed hard and do all the performance turns you want....I have made quite a few of these designs and they are always evolving ( as any shape should, and any shaper should IMO )...I shaped Nick Carroll his 2nd one today . it's a 5'9" x 20" x 2 3/8"....could post pics tomorrow if anyone is interested .....here's a few pics of other Fat-Bats....and a pic of me testing one out.....
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That looks like the kind of surf where I’d definitely would use a longboard. For the best waves on that video, a fish would be fun, but anything with a little extra width and thickness would do. McCoy nugget springs to mind. However to me it looks like with those extremely mush sections you will need all the trim you can get (or be extremely good at generating speed on a thruster). So how about a hp longboard? Trim when you need it, step back on the tail for quick turns.
watched the video... about 85% was stictly 9 ft+ log waves for me (6'0 @ 225 lbs); the few waves that stood up, waist to chest high could be, imo, really fun on a twin keel, but i might suggest going with bigger dims all around than you would normally think is appropriate, for me at my height/weight I'd go 6'4+ length x 22 width x 2 11/16+ thick on the basics of the board
I would very seriously also consider a Greg Griffin "Standard" fish with 5 fin set up
Hey Pridmore , I like the fat bats. They look interesting .Especially the one with the green rails. Where are the wide points on these? Been checking out the Griffins too. Thanks for all the advice. I guess sometimes there’s no getting around needing a longboard. I’m really stubborn though. Never tried a quad before ,but if they get down the line quick it’s worth a shot.
I still need a twin keel in my quiver. Thinking about shaping one as my first DIY board. Would you recommend this? Are they a pretty easy board to shape for the first time myself?
If I end up getting a performance fun gun or performance egg for these waves, should I look for something with a center point moved foreward for drive, and how wide should the tail be?
Get a custom Griffin 5-fin fish/modfish/quad fish
I think he’s more than proven himself to most of his former trash talking doubters on the Surfer Magazine Bulletin Board.
Everyone there was making fun of him and his crew 3-4 years ago talking koolaid and stuff, then they all got to finally ride one and now most all are converts raving like lunatics about their Griffs. (pretty funny IMHO).
I’m almost 55 close to 200lbs now and still can ride my original 5 year old 6’2" 5 fin fish in the worst mush in all of Hawaii (Haubush/Barbers Point). If you don’t believe how bad that wave is just look it up. I now own over half a dozen of his designs including two of his old personal boards.
video of haubush in winter (good day-no 25MPH sideshore wind)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVM10yr4Ut4
He can make his modfish design work for any size person in fact he’s riding his current modfish as a quad and it’s like 6’6"x22.5"x3.25" but remember Greg’s almost 10 years older than me and he’s still surfing Backyard/Boneyard Sunset Beach during the winter with kids 20-30 years younger than him.
The best thing is that it will be a board custom made especially for you and the waves you ride including the hand made G10 fins and once you go custom G10 you won’t go back to off the shelf again. It’s not an easy experience you’ll need to talk to him alot and he’ll keep you on the phone going over what he knows for hours if you are interested so it’s an investment in time for the both of you. But in the end you’ll understand what it is like to be part of the fellowship or (FOF).
Two words about Griffs, user friendly and unbelievable speed with control.
If you ever get one you’ll understand what I’m saying until then you won’t.
BTW.
I’ll be in Seattle next April for a business conference, depending on your size I can bring one of my Griffs up there for you. With 20-40 boards most of my equipement rarely gets used and I try and take care of them anyway(old school way)…
L-R TigerWoods Mod, Bamboozeled Mod, Standard Fish
Tiger surfs?
tiger doesnt surf he drives...wah wah waaaaaaaaaaaaaah
yeah, the griffins look nice....
You should definitely shape yourself a board but dont choose a design based on how easy it may be to shape, do the design that will best suit the waves and you....any help with dims etc, glad to help , just PM.......
oh yeah, if you dont wanna go a longboard, then dont...I would ride a Fat-Bat with a bit of beef in those waves for sure...
I got an offer to trade my 6’6" x 19 x 2.5 for a 5’8" x 21 x 2 3/4 fish with pavel keel fins.
I’ve posted this here because I’ve gotten such tremendous response and I’m sure you guys don’t want another “what size fish post”.
I’m 40 180lbs 5’11". I’ve surfed since 1982 but I only get out 12 times a year now at mostly beach break and I’m out of shape. This is probably why I’m looking for a different design. I’ve ridden only 6’6" x 19 x 2 1/2 mostly. I know fish’s aren’t ideal in most cases but I can see myself catching more wave on one than a standard High performance tri.
I have a 7’2" x 20 x 3" gun for winter. Probably going to step up to a 6’8" x 20" x 2.75 for my midrange eventually. Is this fish the right size for me or should I wait or shape something different?
Lots of foam there but too short in my opinion... try one that small before you buy it....small fish can be like skateboards...hard to adjust to such stumpy equipment....IMO....
the video you posted is of conditions that I prefer my simmons in.
the extra width and volume will make for easy paddle in and that rail line is all acceleration…you can definitely crank turns on them too…don’t let the boxy design fool you.
in fact, disregard the length…I think people focus on the notion that length == easy to catch, but in reality, a wider beam is going to make for easier paddling and will get you up on a plane much faster…that longboard you were riding looked like it was bogging in some spots…sinking. a wider board will keep you up and slip sliding forward.
griffins are radtastic…I own 3 now…but I still think that for the waves you posted, I’d be on my simmons in a heartbeat (in lieu of a fish or a longboard)
sorry to complicate things.
I’ve been riding my Rich Harbour Spherical Revovler all summer and am really stoked with this board. It has the glide to get you through the flat zones on small mushy days and the speed and maneuverability to handle the beach breaks on hollow HH days. My board is an 8 footer which according to their site, is rated for the 200+ pound rider, but at 185 lbs. I find it a nice replacement for my longboards.
Scroll down to the blue Sperical Revolver. You can also click on the board to see additional pics.
http://www.harboursurfboards.com/surfboards.asp#midrange
Not at all. I appreciate all the comments. I wish this fish was a 5’10" or maybe 6’0" .I really want to try one. There’s also a 6’10" x 14.5 x 21x 14.75 x 2.75 Steve Forstall egg that would probably be good for Oregon. Kinda gets into the fun board zone though.
After watching the video I’d have to say go with a simmons. Mine is 6’0" and I can even walk the nose on it.
All right then.I’m looking into getting a Griffin or Simmons. Let you know how it goes. Gotto sell some boards fast.