Fat with small feet

General Discussion
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This has always been a problem for me

but how do you design a high performance curve for someone 5’8" x 200lb with small feet (under size 9)?

if you go narrow and thick to compensate for the weight you get floaty

if you go thinner and wider then its harder to get to rail to rail

I prefer 8"-10" tails 12" in but if you have are at under 7’ and have to push out to 20" or 21" you get a real weird bump in the tail of a really weird out line that’s not to condusive for down the line drives.

Seems like to surf really well you need big feet or narrow tails…

I just can’t square the floatation  and bad outline curve issue

Suggestions?

 

This 7’4"x21.5"x3.25" mingun built by Terry Chung for Alekai Kinimaka is one of the few boards that works for me off the tail but its’ still pretty stiff in the small stuff.

Seems like I have competing issues (weight versus small feet)

I guess in the old days (still stuck in) it didn’t matter cause like BK and Terry F we surfed with our bow legged feet togethor (hahaha) and the tails were so narrow on those Parish styles rounded pins. 

 



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boards previously mentioned

 

 



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I was going to suggest a stinger - but it looks like you already have one (almost)…

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First… lose weight.

Second… spend more time in the water.

Third… don’t use a different board every time you go surfing.

Fourth… when you’re out in the surf go after more waves than you let go
by. Hopefully you’ll catch more, then you’ll have more time to get used
to the board.

Fifth… remember numba 3, or numba foa not going work.

Six… remember numba 2. Things like… I didn’t want to get my car dirty just aint good enough to skip a surf session.

Seven… remember numba 3. Give all your boards except one to your brother to hold until you can get used to that one board. In a couple of years you can have one board back, if you still want it. The rest may a bit dirty from sitting under my house.

Ate… if you don’t do numba one, you going end up like Andy. Jon Jon said he don’t surf anymore because he got kinda beeeg. I told Jon, I though he was beeg, and Jon said, no he got BEEEEG. And you know Andy could rip even when he was beeg, so you better think about numba one bra… yourself.

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You could try a bit of 'V' in the bottom.

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Hey Oneula,

To go with Gregs suggestion, considering you have already made the points about tail width...

Fin placement off the rail is a factor for small feet. There's the standard 1 1/4 in back-dot from the rail...come in further for you.

 

Sharkcountry knows you very well huh?

LOL

Josh

www.joshdowlingshape.com

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haha at shark country comments.. if i remember right he had all the griffs ya? why not just stick them if work so well?

 

i like the super flat/thin wide with a pulled in tail and the flat rocker out the back.. sure that sounds alot like a certain somebody but work great for me.. loose as a goose with legs to climb

maybe thinner and wider not working becuase still to much rail volume?

 

too bad were on opposite islands would love to let you take it for a shot and see what you think

 

 

 

*edit, green one looks pretty curvey and has alot of rocker to go with it? that thing not a dog?

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hello,

7 4 are always big to do small radious arcs in small surf

 

for smaller surf not so drivy board but loose prescription: (regarding board not surfer health)

 

but that type of board is the one you like, so check your stance and the distance of the back foot to the tail

then add more rocker there than previous board

add kick tail

put smaller and not so raked (more vertical) back fin

tilt more front fins

if your stance is too low you ll need more rocker under

if your back foot is too forward, move all the fin set a bit forward (in bigger boards)

 

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eh sharkbutt I tink U meybee should shutup brother  ;-)

I think Andy is the same height as me but more like 280-300+lbs

and if he was my size he’d be murdering the lineup

not every grandpa aged worker gets to take time off to go surf from work for “Mental Health” benefits but when you work for a monopoly utility I guess it doesn’t matter

maybe I should get everyone worried that I’m going to go “postal” at work too so they’ll let me have some time off to play

just be lucky if we all have have jobs here over the next 2 years cause its going to get much much worse than it is today

i don’t hear you complaining about all the free top of the line hand-me-downs either (haha)

 

Bob 

yup drank the koolaid now I’m standing in the j-town line for more of it wondering what the future holds as you can see below…

I think Keith and I have the same “never too many” illness

 

The problem is that we grew up and perfected our “technique” riding these shapes in the early 70’s ( That yellow Gooney shaped swallowtail was my all time fave other than the Iggy bump swallow):

o1

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Now our boards have a slightly different outline

o2

n5

 

n4

 

n3

 

n1

 

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Speed…good idea. Back dot 1.5 at least eh?

P.S.

Love that Bolt quiver pic in here…Gerry, Rory, Army, Tom!

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Ha, you get all the boards, all the brains, all the money, but I  have more fun in the surf, even on my crappy looking dropped in the dirt home made boards.

You anal-ize this too much. Gotta be more from inside da piko, and less from da po. Inada woids, as brudda led would say, jus press. You like turn… jus press. Be more animal, less intellectual. Worked for BK, MP, Fitz, Potz, works for me.

Gotta feel it in da alas bra, in da uli uli. Ain’t no one going to be able to tell you how you feel down there but you, so no sense asking.

I tell you this, the secret is riding one board for a while. Do that for a while and you get better data to anal-ize. Right now you don’t have good baseline data to work off of. It may not be the size of the feet, but where the feet are on the board.

Remember when we only had one board each, and had no choice but figure out how to ride it? Back when we had to move around to get the board to work jus right. Step back to turn, step forward to trim. Closer to the inside rail when turning to keep it from sliding out, or doing that flip flop trip.

Ha, I thought you was da smart one. You da olda, beegga one. And no piss off da sharks or dey going bite.

Oh yeah, I hope you had fun surfing this morning. I’m going to wait until later, when everyone is making Rarrick a rich man.

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   Howzit Bernie, I think that Terry board made for Alikai was made a few years ago because Alekai has lost quite a bit of weight over the years and is no where's near 200 lbs now and I have never checked his feet to see how big they are. The green and yellow colors are Alekai's colors on most of his boards over the years. Hope you are doing well these days and I hope you haven't developed a sensitivity to epoxy like your brother mentioned in another post. Aloha,Kokua

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board on the right is 21 inches wide, with the rails so thin/hard the width doesnt make it hard to throw around at all.  weighing in super light probably helps too (thanks again for that vac bag)

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Speedneedle once had a picture of a concave deck somewhere… wouldn’t that make a wider board easier for your little footed pal ?

 

 

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Hi oneula,

Number nine.  Remember number one.  That's a lot of weight for your height(I'm about your height) unless your built like an NFL tailback.I think losing the weight will help with numbers 2thru 8. Plus, I don't want to read on here that your in the hospital or dead because of a damn heart attack.

Number ten.  Listen to your brother.  Who loves you more than your brother?    With total respect, Mike