FISH KEEL CUTOUTS

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so…

i surfed these on the weekend

they went unreal,

loose off the top , but twanged off the bottom

i surfed mainly lefts , head high , with shape

i can’t wait to try the thinner hemp ones next , but unfortunately we have a week of howling onshores to deal with first.

outta here

cheers

ben

…i will be giving ‘sways’ a break for a while as “photobucket” is giving me the complete and utter shits , not letting me upload photos here at all, lately…i have spent pointless HOURS trying !] so, as i can no longer post photos here , i don’t really have much else i can contribute .

anyways , catchyas at some stage in the future , eh ?! [and hopefully , my daily post count will also go right down , too, so i don’t appear such a swaylocks addict !! ]

here’s another hemp keel riding report ,

this time from a cap’nn kirk email…

         Ben .... .... Tried the board (which was a 6'2" or thereabouts) with it's 'keel' setup and it was OK- bigger than I like and felt kind of boggy even though the waves were better size-wise than I've seen in weeks (waist to chest, more on the chest high end but a bit on the closeout side.)    I genuinely love riding fish in those conditions but this one didn't feel comfortable really. I switched out to the cutaways and after a few waves I have to say I was feeling the improvement.  Board still felt boggy but it seemed looser and the turns felt good. I even got one nice run down the line and ended it with a full power gouge at the closeout whitewater and the keels didn't feel like they were slipping at all. I definitely want to try them on another board or in slightly better waves- keepers for sure.   The regular fins are on my big thrashed board which I've been riding a bit the last few weeks and they work great, I'll definitely pull that thing out on a bigger day this winter as it's fun as hell to ride in head high waves- maybe I'll try the keels on that with a Greenough center fin? I LOVE playing with this stuff- thanks again mightily mate!  Kirk

My guess it that it helps with regards to positioning of the boxes. If you see the really longbase fins, unless the plugs where set specifically with the length of keel in mind you may have the trailing end of the fin going to the rail edge, this would imho not be good and may be a source of cavitation. By cutting away the base, they water can flow easily past the bottom/fin area without rail flow being affected. But this is just my guessing and I haven’t actually tried cutaway keels.

anyone recall berts cutaway base fins? They should reduce turbulence as the chord increases and go through higher AOA’s. also a little less resistance to the motion from less base being there.

well, simon , my brother, has now returned from his annual overseas jaunt ,

and was fortunate enough to have been photographed surfing his green ‘Island Surfboards’ [oz] board , complete with cutaway keel side fins ?!! yeehaaa !!!

…i eagerly await seeing the photos , when he has them copied

 cheers 

ben

and , it will be GREAT to see him in FRONT of the lens , for a change !!

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well, simon , my brother, has now returned from his annual overseas jaunt ,

and was fortunate enough to have been photographed surfing his green ‘Island Surfboards’ [oz] eggy type board , complete with cutaway keel side fins ?!! yeehaaa !!!

…i eagerly await seeing the photos , when he has them copied

cheers

ben

and , it will be GREAT to see him in FRONT of the lens , for a change !!

here’s a few Simon has sent me , so far …‘Wildy’ , this could bring back some memories of Simon for you , eh , mate ??

…All photos are by Paul Gallegos , used without permission [sorry !]

[note that he had only the cutaway keels , no back fin , as that was knocked out of the plugs , ? as he was paddling out?]

cheers

ben

[these SORT of show the keels in action …]

Nice looking board and photos. How about a pic or two of the boards bottom and fins? Thanks, Tripper

cheers mate ,

i have asked Simon for the same …

when I get em i’ll post em here !

cheers !

ben
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Nice looking board and photos. How about a pic or two of the boards bottom and fins? Thanks, Tripper

[simon foiled the back fin …good job !

That back fin is wild…

yep

as we ‘used to’ [not so long ago] here in west australia ,

'fin blanks were available in our surf suppliers .

knowing the work [and $$$$$] that goes into laying up even , say, an 8x10" multi-coloured panel , i guess it was only a matter of time before it was deemed uneconomical …hence my ?obsession? with experimenting with making my own . i still prefer a fibreglass fin to plastic , any day !!

cheers

ben 

home made fins …it is my hope that , through forums like this , it will not become a lost art …

Awesome stuff chipper

thanks mate

to clarify , it’s actually my brother , Simon , who made the fin , not me …[credit where it is due ] …

…the beauty of working with a surf shop and suppliers , i guess …gold comes his way , sometimes !

cheers

ben

I think the most important thing about Rasta’s DVS keels is that they have tons of area and thus drive while yet being freed up with the reduced base …

and the flex forgives the area of the fin and the stiffness of the carbon fish, like someone said, allowing more latitude in the attitude . … really cool stuff if that’s what’s going on–huge fins worth of drive with little enough base to be free and flex to flow and not stall

maybe

hey i dunno

greg

PS I think you could go bigger with 'em, ben–I myself would just copy the DVS ones and see what’s up

…i have a few templates …

cheers er 'janks ’

ben

more shots of simon’s ones …

vee bottom , flat , and ? concave/s too ? [from memory…]