Flipping the laps up to wet/Cleanlines

To Mr. Brucker - or other experienced glassers… I’ve heard arguments for not flipping up the laps (onto the deck/bottom) to wet them out, but it was much easier for me to wet them fully doing so, but… I find it tough to keep from getting pulls and sags in the lapped rail when handling the wet glass. I’ve been following the shot log on the Damascus site for the Glasser video in production and there are some shots of flipping the laps up… and some leaving the down while wetting out. What would be the deciding factor as to flip or not? And Are there any tips/tricks to getting a good wet-out when the lap is not flipped up? Thanks, Eric J

To Mr. Brucker - or other experienced glassers…>>> I’ve heard arguments for not flipping up the laps (onto the deck/bottom) > to wet them out, but it was much easier for me to wet them fully doing so, > but… I find it tough to keep from getting pulls and sags in the lapped > rail when handling the wet glass. I’ve been following the shot log on the > Damascus site for the Glasser video in production and there are some shots > of flipping the laps up… and some leaving the down while wetting out.>>> What would be the deciding factor as to flip or not?>>> And>>> Are there any tips/tricks to getting a good wet-out when the lap is not > flipped up?>>> Thanks, Eric J I wet the rails first then wet out and squeege the rest of the glass. Before I wrap the rails I pour a another little bead of resin around area just above the rail and rewet the rail. Then wrap the rail. I started using this technique some years back and it works great for me. Aloha, Kokua

Thanks Kokua. I do the rails first myself too. sometimes flipping the cloth up, sometimes not. flipping up always makes the wet-out easier but it’s hard to keep things from bunching up when folding it back down. EJ>>> I wet the rails first then wet out and squeege the rest of the glass. > Before I wrap the rails I pour a another little bead of resin around area > just above the rail and rewet the rail. Then wrap the rail. I started > using this technique some years back and it works great for me. Aloha, > Kokua

Thanks Kokua. I do the rails first myself too. sometimes flipping the > cloth up, sometimes not. flipping up always makes the wet-out easier but > it’s hard to keep things from bunching up when folding it back down.>>> EJ It gets tricky flipping the lap up when going on foam.For going over a glassed bottom I usually turn them up…clip the strings first.Most of my boards are thick long boards so the “drip” wetout kinda wastes resin.What I call the “drip” method is an art in itself a good pro laminater that does it every day will waste very little resin.I glassed around five boards in the film showing a bunch of different methods…take your choice.One thing I found with the flip up method is to wear the thin latex disposable gloves,you can grab the edge of the glass pretty easy.The thick reusable gloves are harder to use…kinda like trying to pick up a penny with a baseball mitt.Thanks for watching the pics…I like input,positive or negative,it is an ongoing learning process. R.Brucker

Thanks for the help. I’ve discovered that I’m sure not an artist (yet) in the drip method… I wasted alot of resin and didn’t get a good wetout either ! … The shot-log is great. I’ve learned so much just from looking at the pictures. Hoping to get the video when it comes out. I may be glassing a clear 6’2" this weekend. 2x4oz + patch top and 1x4oz bottom. I’ll be flipping - carefully. Thanks again, Eric J>>> It gets tricky flipping the lap up when going on foam.For going over a > glassed bottom I usually turn them up…clip the strings first.Most of my > boards are thick long boards so the “drip” wetout kinda wastes > resin.What I call the “drip” method is an art in itself a good > pro laminater that does it every day will waste very little resin.I > glassed around five boards in the film showing a bunch of different > methods…take your choice.One thing I found with the flip up method is to > wear the thin latex disposable gloves,you can grab the edge of the glass > pretty easy.The thick reusable gloves are harder to use…kinda like > trying to pick up a penny with a baseball mitt.Thanks for watching the > pics…I like input,positive or negative,it is an ongoing learning process. > R.Brucker

Thanks for the help. I’ve discovered that I’m sure not an artist (yet) in > the drip method… I wasted alot of resin and didn’t get a good wetout > either !>>> … The shot-log is great. I’ve learned so much just from looking at the > pictures. Hoping to get the video when it comes out.>>> I may be glassing a clear 6’2" this weekend. 2x4oz + patch top and > 1x4oz bottom. I’ll be flipping - carefully.>>> Thanks again, Eric J Let me try to explain something about wetting out the rails. Those gaps in the resin will not fill in by just trying to flow more resin. The resin will only flow where the resin already is. When I get a gap or two I take my squeege and carefully pour a little resin above the area and use the squeege to force the resin down over the dry spot. After a few lay ups it’ll get easier to get a nice even flow down the rail. Flipping the rails up on the deck to wet out takes time and as you already know it’s a mess,you’ll be a lot more stoked once you get flowing the rails down. Aloha, Kokua

Let me try to explain something about wetting out the rails. Those gaps in > the resin will not fill in by just trying to flow more resin. The resin > will only flow where the resin already is. When I get a gap or two I take > my squeege and carefully pour a little resin above the area and use the > squeege to force the resin down over the dry spot. After a few lay ups > it’ll get easier to get a nice even flow down the rail. Flipping the rails > up on the deck to wet out takes time and as you already know it’s a > mess,you’ll be a lot more stoked once you get flowing the rails down. > Aloha, Kokua Hello, I am just getting into shaping. I was wondering what video you watched. Glassing cars is alot different them boards thanks ron

any estimated date for the release of the glassing video? these videos will be legendary…thank you

go to Damascusproductions.com and check out the master glasser section. The video is not out yet but there is a shot log that can be very helpful. EJ>>> Hello,>>> I am just getting into shaping. I was wondering what video you watched. > Glassing cars is alot different them boards thanks ron

any estimated date for the release of the glassing video? these videos > will be legendary…thank you Videos will show you the steps but there’s a certain touch in lamination that can only be attained through hands on application. Aloha, Kokua

I read something recently about George Downing using his hands to squeegee the resin and wet the laps. It said he did a beautiful job too. I think it was in the Dale Velzy interview in Longboard Mag. When the squeegee don’t seem to be doing what you want it too… fingers sometimes can. … though be sure to invest in acetone beforehand.>>> Videos will show you the steps but there’s a certain touch in lamination > that can only be attained through hands on application. Aloha, Kokua

I read something recently about George Downing using his hands to squeegee > the resin and wet the laps. It said he did a beautiful job too. I think it > was in the Dale Velzy interview in Longboard Mag. When the squeegee don’t > seem to be doing what you want it too… fingers sometimes can. … though > be sure to invest in acetone beforehand. A lot of glassers use their hand for the initial rail wrap then finish with the squeege. You can do it with gloves on.Aloha, Kokua