flourescent light set up problems...help please?

so i went to home depot and bought the caseings for two 4’ flourescent lights (2 bulbs each) and also bought the bulbs.

so i’m setting it all up. and i’ve got align the wires accordingly as it’s depicted on the diagram on the ballast. got that. now, i place the bulbs in. then, i take the two wires that feed to the AC supply.

my question,

how exactly am i supposed to safely connect the wires to an AC power line? they’re just ‘raw’ wire at the ends. do i have to buy something else? i’m totally confused on that part…

so i just shoved them directly into a power strip (stupidity?) it sorta worked, except not…i only got 1/2 of a bulb to illuminate on only one of my 2 units. wierd.

i’m just totally confused…

what am i doing wrong??

p.s. sorry for my ridiculous noviceness…

from one ridiculous novice to another…

  1. go back to home depot (or any other hardware store)

  2. ask them to cut you some lamp cord at desired length for each fixture

  3. buy the little plastic caps that allow you to splice two wires together (get appropriate color according to fixture’s power rating)

  4. buy one outlet plug for each fixture

  5. split and strip the ends of your lamp cord

  6. splice one end of the lamp cord wires to the ‘raw wires’ in your fixture using plastic caps

  7. screw the other end of your lamp cord wires into the outlet plug

  8. insert bulbs, plug it in…

  9. let there be light!

if your light bulbs don’t illuminate entirely (ie. half on, half off), make sure that the wire colors match up for each bulb. i reversed it accidentally, and the bulbs didn’t illuminate entirely. after i reversed them back, it worked perfectly.

hope that helps,

kc

i will definately do that. thanks. that seems to make some more sense.

i’m curious if we have the same lights. ‘lithonia’?

if only they made them already assembled!

…i guess it takes the fun out of it… and a little frustration here and there.

yep, 4’ dual bulb lithonia. home depot special.

they’re designed to be wired into the ceiling, directly into the electircal circuit, not into outlets. as for assembly, well, you’ve selected the wrong hobby if you’re worried about having to assemble things from scratch. :wink:

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as for assembly, well, you’ve selected the wrong hobby if you’re worried about having to assemble things from scratch. :wink:

hehehehe one of the funniest things Ive read in a while… nicely put

hehehe

rif.

ohh i figured that out a while ago.

i’m learning is all.

haha. it’s like a wild goose chase…

Wow…

I can wire up light fixtures. Can’t give advice over the internet on how to do it. Only a qualified Electrician can do that. I think as a novice you bought the wrong stuff. At my local Home Depot you can buy four foot lights ready to plug in. Go back to Home Depot and ask questions … Lots of questions

Ray

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if only they made them already assembled!

They do. Look for ‘utility lights’ or shop lights, which are also meant to talke a little more banging around.

On the other hand, you’ve survived your first experiment with electricity without having to be introduced to Mister Defibrillator. Which introduction happens fairly often - and you don’t want to follow one good jolt with several more, just for fun.

This might be a real good time to rest on your laurels, as things like bare wires stuffed into plug sockets are dangerous enough without doing it in the presence of flammable dusts and chemical fumes that can have low flash points and what have ya. Blackening is good for mediocre fish, not so good for surfboards, surfboard makers and so on.

Hope that’s of help. Used to know a guy who swore he could tell the difference between 110, 220 and 440 by the way his hand jumped when he touched bare wires. Not that great an idea, when voltmeters are so cheap.

doc…

oh dear.

i guess i’m just a curious one sometimes.

thanks for the link…might go see if the ace down the street has em…just for kicks. hehe.

JDM - I too had the “raw wire” type and what I did was to buy two extension cords, the heavy duty three prong type for plugging in a refrigerator or similar appliance. I then cut off the female end and wired my light fixture wires to that (you need a ground!). My electrician neighbor supervised.

Electricity isn’t dangerous, but ignorance about electricity on the part of someone wiring for it can be extremely so. Do us all a favor, and bone up on the subject. My personal recommendation is “Wiring Simplified” by H. P. Richter. It covers theory, all basic (and some not so basic) house wiring concepts and code-compliant applications. I see that Amazon has it for 10 bucks - much cheaper than a visit by your local fire department or rescue squad. I’m sure it can also be found at most chain book stores, and possibly in the “how-to” section at Home Depot or Lowes. I’ve done a bit of wiring over the past 20 years, and I still pull it out on a regular basis to make sure my head is on straight (and stays that way).

-Samiam

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oh dear.

i guess i’m just a curious one sometimes.

Remember what happened to the cat who was curious…

As the man said, ‘Wiring Simplified’ see http://www.wiringsimplified.com/excerpts_1.html for instance, an excerpt that deals with those maddening 3 way switches.

Y’know, I think I might just have to snag a copy myself… especially as I need to put a couple GFI outlets in the bath and kitchen, plus mebbe a couple outside for working on this and that…

'Cos nobody looks good in Electric Blue…

doc…

Geesus H! You guys are makin’ me gringe. Um, death, fire, bad. Volitile fumes, flamable dust, loose wires shoved in, wire nuts. Yikes!

Two fixes.

  1. Buy the fixtures with the plugs already on.

or

  1. Get new fixtures. The kind with the plugs already on.

Your fixtures are designed to be wired in. Permanent.

As an alternate solution, there are clamp-on cord ends that are much more secure than splicing wires. They have screw clamps to bite down on each stripped wire and a clamp to hold the insulated section so you’re not yanking on the stripped part every time you move it. Make sure you buy the kind that are sized to properly fit your cord.

This alternate does require some assembly. I recommend one of the first two fixes.

If you have to improvise, try this http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/5C377 or something similar. You may want to get some help with this one.

Please be safe.

Ryan

I hate to be a little bitch here, but if you don’t understand the basics of wiring a light bulb, maybe you shouldn’t be messing around with it.

There are just a few things about what you are trying to do here. 1) black wire is the hot lead. 2) white wire is the neutral. 3) green is the ground. On a wall plug, the gold screw is for the black…always remember black/gold as in “blackgold Texas tea”. The silver screw is for the white. green is obvious.

Now with that learned, as long as your circut isn’t already overloaded: You can tell by adding up all your potential amp draw on that certain circut. Light bulbs draw a certain amount of watts that can be converted into amps…add them all up. Find out if your circut is a 15 or 20 amp, find the potential load / overload. Now you can add a switch leg to power up those lights.

If you can add to the circut, run the wires fron an existing wall socket, to a wall switch,and out to some junction boxes at the appropriate level and wire those lights. Peice of cake. Make sure all wiring is done within the junction box.

Make sure that if you run additional wire on the circut, make sure you use the same gauge wire as the rest of the circut. Either the yellow or white romex stuff…12 or 14 gauge, depends on circut amps, 15 or 20.

Oh yeah, make sure you flip the circut before you start working, or you might get this little zap feeling if you touch metal to any of the 3 wires.

If none of this makes a little bit off sense to you, call an electrician.

disclamier: Resinhead is not a certified electrician, your mileage may vary from recommendations, resinhead is not held responsible in the case of electricution, dismemberment, or physical deformity from the said instructions.

Or just make little extension cords and plug them into the wall and be done with it. Thats what i’d do.

Res’,

Good tips on the black/gold and all that. I have a small amount of electrical knowledge and I’d guess counting amps and running circuits would be a little beyond his capabilities at this point. I think he’s looking for a connectivity solution.

To add to your description on installing the outlet, I think that per code exposed romex is a no no. I think it has to be behind drywall or armored in some way. Admittedly, I have some not-per-code romex running on the wall in my garage but I thought I’d point that out for our struggling friend here.

Peace