Fresh air

[quote="$1"] "...The hard truth is, the most important thing was that the experiment is run faithfully to the original spirit and intent, which was to compare two different material cores of similar density.." [/quote]

[quote="$1"]  This is way out of hand. Please everyone. Go get some fresh air. [/quote]  

 #Surfblanks Yellow Vs Marko 2lb E Ps ### < were these finally tested ? post results OBJECTIVELY pls, thanks 

cheers,

 

I thought surfding did a great job in light of what the thread deteriorated into. In fact he and I both bailed as it became obvious where it was going.  Gotta keep things like politics, religion and flag waving off a site like this.  It’s about surfing and we are all about that here … on this site that comes FIRST.  The cocoon statement unfortunately divided everyone and from that point on … 

Nothing in the last two pages had anything to do with the test or results.  I think earlier in the thread SD stated that both boards came out great and surfed well.  Seems that the test and results we’re a success.  The thread on the other hand … train wreck.

the yellow was a winning board !

 

 

pros get 10 of the same board and 1 “MIGHT” be a good one… what do people expect from these results. Both boards are state of the art! Leave it alone.

http://www2.swaylocks.com/forums/high-performance-shortboard-made-swaylocks

 

 

was it settled (with finality) which board performed better ?

you’re not really getting the hint, are you?

 Surfboards are not objective , they are subjective so there are no objective result.  Not getting the hint … no one wants to go down this road. 

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pros get 10 of the same board and 1 "MIGHT" be a good one....

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Yorky,

What did you mean by this? I'm not being a dick, I'm new to shaping and this is a sincere question.

Are you saying that there is so much inconsistancy in board building that even if a shaper "tries" to make the same board ten times he might only get it right once? Or are you commenting on poor quality of production "pop out" boards?

 edit: or were you commenting on how fickle the pros are?

i've read that about pros and their boards before. they'll get 10 identical machine shapes, finished, glassed, sanded, and finned all the same.

and maybe 1 out of 10 will be really good. they'll put that one "on ice" for contests or whatever and surf the other 9... in a recent TSJ, if i remember

correctly, Slater talks about this and says that he attributes the variation to several different unknowns. like, the grain of the wood in the stringer,

how much hotcoat the sander sanded off, etc.

For pro level surfing, boards are built on a very fine edge, a small difference in balance can effect the ride and someone as experienced as a pro can tell the difference. So these small differences have an effect on their surfing.  Pro level surfing is based on confidence as much as anything else.  The right board can make all the difference.  And yes, they can be fickle as well.  Lot of head cases. The glamor of being a pro surfer in the media is not nearly the whole story … it’s a much tougher game than the public is led to believe.

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Yeah, I have heard the one out of ten surfboard comments before, but on the Trestles web cast last week the announcers quoted Jordy Smith, who, when asked about taking out a different board, mid-event,  that he hadn’t ridden, from a new shaper, replied;  “How different could they be?”

(That locking of the trainwreck thread reminded me of when you are very young, and at a reletive’s, or parents’ friend’s house, and while the adults are visiting, and you and the other kids in the back room are playing, then are getting too loud, wild, and, “acting up”, and eventually a parent comes in with a stern look…Oh oh,)

sickdog

 

thank you for such a concise, clear explanation, i get it now

cheers,