Glassing my Teilebrett (Bisect)

I found some free days at last to finish my board…

how many layers of glas do I use…which weight…in gramm/m² please?

it’s PP, I use Epoxyresign.

Maybe I will travel to Fuerteventura next week and have FCS Plugs installed there…they are not available in Austria :slight_smile: and I am too lazy to make some myself…

your board looks great , i have been thinking of doing something similar myself, just for the ease of travelling, i read your earlier posts but how have you done it in the end , pete you

nothing is proven yet…I hope it will work but the connection seems to be really strong…it’s rather heavy, but the original bisect is also heavy I guess…my carbon/kevlar tubes are a lot lighter than aluminium tubes.

It’s balsa stringers where the tubes are in the foam to releas load from the tubes into the foam and on the hull.

one hollow screw to connect everything.

I post pics when it’s finished.

Help on glassing anyone?

If it were me, and the board is already on the heavy side, I’d be thinking, might as well use 2 layers of 6 ounce cloth on both the top and bottom.

1 ounce per square yard = 33.9 grams per square meter

So, what we call 6 ounce cloth would be about 200 grams/m2, or thereabouts.

Other opinions will differ, I’m sure…

What is the diff. between 2 cloth and one that is heavier? Is the lighter cloth easier to wrap and work with?

or does the fabrik of the lighter cloth just look smoother?

Is 2*200g a very light option? I don’t want to glass it like very light…I have a contest short board that is so light but a little thin for my taste…bumps everywhere on the deck and starting to delam on the front foot.

This is great ! I was wondering what happened to your project as you remember we had quite some talk about bisect design options. I’m glad to see it’s nearly finished. Please let us know how it works.

2x6oz(200g) deck and one layer on the bottom is what’s often called a strong lam on different surfboard manufactureres websites. If you’re using clark foam it should be adequate. 2 layers of 100g cloth is stronger than one layer of 200g cloth all else being equal. Many layers of cloth(3 and up) may be hard to wet out + might get expensive. The lighter cloth will be a little smoother, but the difference between a 135g cloth(4oz) and 200g(6oz) is not that big. You may need to use a little more resin for the sandcoat on the thicker cloth.

regards,

Håvard

hi markus. where are you from? Well nice board but for my opinion slyghtly tio less of a noserocker. I think you should go for something which offers you light weight, high strength and high stiffness like Carbon Fiber glass. I think that would give your construction more stiffness and you might have less problems and it seems to me as if flex is not that importent in such a construction. cheers best regards from innsbruck

Wien…hey mein Budget muss dann auch noch für Fuerte reichen :wink:

das Carbon ist mir ein bisschen zu teuer.

lg

Marcus

na dann probier auf jeden fall 2 Lagen 6oz oben und unten und vielleicht noch eine extra lage 4 oz über der zone mit den metall und holz damit es dir nicht durch den druck aufreisst.

2 layers of 200 gram cloth is pretty strong. One advantage of using two layers is that you can trim the bottom layer differently than the top layer, thus allowing the rails to lap more neatly. While you could try to use one thick layer (400 gram cloth?) it would be harder to make the laps lay down nicely…

Typically boards are done with 2 layers on the deck and one on the bottom. I suggested 2 layers on the bottom as well since you seemed interested in strength…

was able to semi-translate your posts in German, but what is Fuerte?

Keith, “Fuerte” is “Fuerteventura” one of the Canary Islands… where i hope to be this Christmas.

Good Waves.

Fuerte is just short for Fuerteventura…the European Hawaii…one of the The Canary Islands, I would say Afrika but it belongs to Spain.

There are other interesting surfdestinations…Madeira, an Island belonging to Portugal is one of my favs. But it’s very expensiv.

A flight to Fuerte is 189€ now…

We poor Austrians allways need to travel but Europe got great waves…two years ago I surfed Supertubes aka Supertubos in Portugal…wow.

Marrocco is also great but too big for 1 week…you need time when you travel Marrocco

supertubos

Get the Stormrider Guide Europe…a good read.

Where do you lap? on the deck above the rails? First the top, than bottom, then top and finally the last bottom?

cheers Marcus

Ok, thanks for the info. I’ve never been to that part of the world but I sure would like to… maybe someday.

Yes, laps are on the deck above the rails, and on the bottom below the rails. But, both layers are done at the same time, not alternating. So you would do both bottom layers, closest to the foam gets trimmed right at the rail, 2nd layer cut to go around the rail by however large you want the lap to be (bigger laps are stronger). Then (after some clean up) similarly to do the deck of the board.

how are the carbon tubes going to fit inside the board , are there tubes resined in that the carbon ones slide into ? pete

I made glass tubes around the Carbon tubes.

Do I lay out both clothes on one side and then wet them out or wet out the first and then put the second on?

think you wet out both do you?

you wet out both layers at the same time.

normally laminate the bottom of the board first.

with bottom facing up lay down glass. if using 2 layers trim the first to the rail line and the sencond to how ever far you want them to wrap the rails. laminate. then turn board over and do the same with the deck facingup. this is a free lap. cut lap involves taping off and then cutting along the tapeline once partially cured to produce a clean, even thickness, stringless lap line.

My website (link below) has still pictures of doing cut lap.

Surfboard - first board section:

http://www.fundingcashflow.com/surfing/ST1.html

and in the Glassing Seminar section:

http://www.fundingcashflow.com/surfing/swaylocks_glassing_seminar.html

hope that helps

Marcus,

Looks pretty good!!! Mind you we do have an issued patent in the U.S. that is very comprehensive regarding the Pope Bisect. Would like to talk to you if you have the time-please go to our website and e-mail us and I will give you a call in Austria!

Aloha,

Thane Pope-Pope Bisect[url][email]

I am not planning on making more than one board. How does the US patent work? I have no clue.

please write me to

marcus.kraus@gmx.at

cheers

Marcus