Glider comparison, Munoz 11' vs Hall Fishsimmons

Yes I still have the Andreini and I will NEVER sell it, absolut magic board!

Funny you should mention Geoff’s loaded dome and Bruce Fowler, my “shortboards” are an 8’ V8 veebottom by Bruce and 8’2 single from mr McCoy. They share the same traits of Andreini 10’ of triminng and carving in the same spot despite being big boards.

Here is a shot poached from KP’s blogg of a similiar board to my 10’ , “rolled vee” in front of the fin goes to flat.

Wider tails and moving the widepoint further back, will surely acomplish some of the goals surfers want with gliders like early wave entry easy paddling, planing across flat spost but still be a whole lot easier to turn, the sacrifize apears be top end speed, but in the end a very good alernative to surf the same waves. But in paddling cross country from one break to antother the long parralell outlines are hard to beat.

Here is also a shot of a late 50’s Hobie, with a outline that would work great for the same conditions IMHO. Nat Young wrote in his biography that the best ever longboard he surfed was not Sam but a 1958 Hobie shaped by Joe Quigg!