Wondering if any of you have tried the Greenough fins made by True Ames? Are they true to his original design or just using his name to sell a product?
Wondering if any of you have tried the Greenough fins made by True Ames? > Are they true to his original design or just using his name to sell a > product? Use me as a reference and try checking with Bob Duncan at Wilderness Surfboards in Santa Barbara or e-mail Charlie Coffee (contact me for his e-mail address). A new (sanctioned) Greenough website (www.georgegreenough.com) is currently being created by Harold Ward which will reproduce George
s fin designs, surfboards, sailboards, kneeboards, surfmats, boat designs, etc. finally offered to the public, located in one site, through a number of select craftsmen who have dedicated many years to faithfully translating George
s design concepts.
Would you let me know when the site goes live. It sounds real interesting. Thanks. Brent Clark>>> Use me as a reference and try checking with Bob Duncan at Wilderness > Surfboards in Santa Barbara or e-mail Charlie Coffee (contact me for his > e-mail address). A new (sanctioned) Greenough website > (www.georgegreenough.com) is currently being created by Harold Ward which > will reproduce Georges fin designs, surfboards, sailboards, kneeboards, > surfmats, boat designs, etc. finally offered to the public, located in one > site, through a number of select craftsmen who have dedicated many years > to faithfully translating George
s design concepts. http://www.2ndwavesurfboards.com
Dale, Thank you for all the great information. Please let me know how I can contact Bob Duncan or Charlie Coffee. I can’t wait for the Greenough site to get up and running.
Use me as a reference and try checking with Bob Duncan at Wilderness > Surfboards in Santa Barbara or e-mail Charlie Coffee (contact me for his > e-mail address). A new (sanctioned) Greenough website > (www.georgegreenough.com) is currently being created by Harold Ward which > will reproduce George
s fin designs, surfboards, sailboards, kneeboards, > surfmats, boat designs, etc. finally offered to the public, located in one > site, through a number of select craftsmen who have dedicated many years > to faithfully translating George
s design concepts. Man, how many times over the past couple of years have I typed georgegreenough.com into a search engine, hoping, praying it would hit something! Thanks Dale! Hope everything’s going well. See ya- ryan
Yes, I have a True Aames Greenough fin in my egg. Yes they are good. I ride my egg(displacement hull and all) from time to time for nostalgia’s sake, but multi fin boards are tough to beat. Surfed with Charlie Coffee at Rights and Lefts last year. He had a board George had shaped him that he was riding. Rode a couple waves for fun then went in and got his Merrick. aloha
Yes, I have a True Aames Greenough fin in my egg. Yes they are good. I > ride my egg(displacement hull and all) from time to time for nostalgia’s > sake, but multi fin boards are tough to beat. Surfed with Charlie Coffee > at Rights and Lefts last year. He had a board George had shaped him that > he was riding. Rode a couple waves for fun then went in and got his > Merrick.>>> aloha surfed my liddle hull yesterday in not so perfect chest high beach break – the hull is def. greenough inspired and has a wonderfully flexible single-fin. it was fun for a few waves, but like tom states, after a few snappy full rail bottom turns it was time to go back in and get my 9’6". i do not ride this for nostalgias sake though – i ride it because in the right conditions nothing is better (for me) very fast – very smoothe – full rail turning really makes ya feel more intuned with the wave (i think) – but the waves really need to be a bit cleaner, a bit more lined up and preferably breaking right (i am a regular foot) – not sure exactly what my point is, but i kinda doubt the guy was riding it just for nostalgia. guess i am also saying – right board for the conditions, and yesterday it was my 9’6". truth be told the right “vehicle” would have been one that someone who often posts on here crafted for me – yeah a surf mat. unfortunately the beach i was surfing was JUST for surfing. i have surfed those things a few times and they really are surprisingly fun – fast, maneuverable and def not just for nostalgias sake. hey – just my two cents.
In PURE STOKE by John Grissim >>> Re: Greenough >>>“…he had perfected the high-aspect, laminar flow fin, a development which made him litterally the fastest man in the water.The key lay in constructing a fin which could harness the wave’s energy without generating drag-inducing turbulence along the trailing edge of the fin as it moved through the water…Laminar flow basically is over a very narrow range. Water only goes back an inch and a quarter or so before breaking into turbulent flow. So the fin must be very narrow. Look at any high-performance fish and you’ll see my fin is basically the same - it’s the same plan and foil shape as a large tuna…you’ll notice their tail is very narrow and quite high. With that kind of fin by the time the turbulence shows up in the water the fin has already left it behind. Hence no turbulence to affect performance.” Paul Jensen says: I’ve been making my own wood core fins for about 5 years. I use 2 layers of 9 ply 1/2" baltic birch plywood with an 1/8" glass core, you can really see the foiling with the 9 ply, an added benefit is the light weight of my fins. They float!!! The 9 ply Baltic Birch is great to foil since the interior plies are good enough to be face grades. The thinner interior plies also make foiling real easy to monitor. 2 layers of 6 oz. over both sides. Glossed & Polished Foiling is the most important aspect of fins IMHO. What I’m using now is 1" thick at the base to extremly thin at the tip. Rake is subjective, but I would classify mine as more vertical than most. I’m 6’4 x 200# and use a Base 5" x Height 9" for just about everything. I’ve made mine to fit Fins Unlimited boxes. I can e-mail a digital photo to anyone
I guess that depends on what you mean by his “original” design. I’m out of the loop as far as direct personal contact but I’ve read of his pressure laminated graphite/epoxy fins that apparently allow for thin foiling while still maintaining stiffness. I also seem to remember photos in a magazine of him grinding away at a stainless steel fin with sparks flying. Again, to allow thin foiling while maintaining stiffness. I’ve examined some of his older spoons and noticed that the base foil was frequently quite thick while the tip was thin and snappy. Greg Liddle has some awesome fins for sale through his website. I believe that they approximate Greenough’s in shape and foil. As mentioned elsewhere in this thread, Liddle’s boards are the blunt template, displacement hull style. I know that he’s been refining them for 30 years or so. I bought a couple of his fins and they work very nice in specific conditions.