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Surfiber for the longest thread !!
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howdy ogre,
thanks for the thought (they say it's what counts hehe) but given the thread title, i really don't fit in here but hmm does this come with a door prize? if so i need 20 sq. ft. of 4oz. fiberglass cloth to finally finish my board! " )
cheers,
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..............then you can change your name to Surfibreglass
he closed shop and opened a resto-bar in its place. he says the local stock isn’t as good as what he had back in the US so glassing is postponed until i get the stuff i need
What kokua says about ''passing on knowledge'' is so true. For me, I got to work with some of the very best and learn the planer-shaping game. I feel strongly that even in the age of CAD/CAM the art of handshaping needs to be kept alive. IMO the best designs are going to come from some guy carving away in a shaping room. The more we move to bigger companes and CAD, the more likely it is that design decisions will be made by a committee in some corporate boardroom (it's already happening). Encouraging experimentation in garages is the antidote to that bleak future.
Swaylock's is the heart and soul of the garage movement, with pro help (and other garage guys, some of whom are very good, helping also). But it's also several other things. The design discussion is actually a seperate part, away from the technique help provided by guys like kokua. Alternative craft like mats and paipos, etc., float around the edges. New build technologies are discussed more here than anyplace else. This place can get downright philisophical too, thanks to members like ambrose.
I'm stoked to contribute in my small way to what is plainly the best ''surfboard'' site going.
Amen to Kokua and Mike Daniel. Case in point, read the recent exchanges between Huckleberry and Surfoils in the 100% hollow board thread. They are scratching at the future perhaps. Good Work to All!!!
howdy afoaf, i’m based in manila. know any reputable oz/nz outfit with established distributors in the asean region? quality fiber glass cloth is hard to find in these parts
One of the “big three” companies recently “designed” a board with deckside foot wells on the computer, the finish shaper had 60 fine sanded when the call came in to stop the presses!
He had to shorten and re-templated them as as they road like crap, but hadn’t been tested first.
Bill Bahne was “designing boards in China using the computer, they looked good at 10” high on the monitor, but once cut looked like crap, there are times when I am working on a one off template, I’ll take it outside stood up to look it over, some times it takes a lot of trips out back to get it right, nothing like hands on experience
Jim the G, A lot of my time in doing boards is standing back and staring at the outline, rocker, foil etc. For me, it really helps to dial in the details, especially using the lights. I’ll stand the blank up on the rail on the stands and turn off the overheads and leave the side light on behind it. This really shows the curve of the outline. And so on with all else. Time isn’t really an issue with me because I don’t do it for money.
Haha, I just spent about an hour yesterday drawing up a new template. I had worked out the basics on CAD, but I still like to draw it up on a piece of foam, take it outside, tweak a little, take outside again, etc. I like to get back about 50 feet and look sometimes, once I've gotten it finalized enough to put down a really dark line over all the scribbling. All stuff I learned from you, JKP.
As for CAD foibles, here's one of my favorites: A good friend worked for a huge marine company that has a very sophisticated CAD capability, 15 years worth of data to correlate design features with vessel performance characteristics, millions of $s invested. They design boats in CAD and then build test models here (my friend's job). He was at a meeting where the designers were pitching one of their new, and somewhat far-out, designs. He thought he saw something wrong with the concept and started doing some rough math on a pad. In a minute or two he interrupted the meeting to inform them that the boat would not float. Oops.
Howzit Ambrose, Glad to hear that all is fine on the Island and I hope you are making sure it stays that way. I agree balsa is definitely one of many kings here because there are just to many kings and not enough countries for all of them. Instead of a king it could be lots of princes of Swaylocks and the real king is Mike Paler since it's his website. Aloha,Kokua