How strong is your board?

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Cameron and Sons Aircraft has produced what we consider to be the world’s strongest and most advanced surfboards. We would like to challenge any and all surfboard manufacturers to a test of strength and flexibility. We will cover the cost for load testing, if any manufacturers product tests out at one half the strength of our board. This challenge goes out to all manufacturers of hi-tech boards, epoxy laminated, balsa wood, pressed laminated, surf tech, or any other concept.

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Here’s the link…

http://cameronaircraft.com/surf/index.htm

Sounds like a challenge…Cover the cost of testing if any board tests at HALF the strength?? There’s gotta be someone here who can beat this… Of course, they do not cover the cost for the broken board you provide, at least not from what I can read…

JSS

So, it’s just braggin’ rights then?

I wonder what their board weighs and if there are weight classes, I mean I could build a solid titanium surfboard that would certainly be stronger than any carbon-fiber shell.

By the way, did you check out their “sex appeal” product shot?

Gross.

I think I actually threw up in my mouth a little when I saw that.

My board got ran over a couple months ago… and though its no where near surfable, its still in one whole piece after being ran over several times :stuck_out_tongue:

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Sounds like a challenge…Cover the cost of testing if any board tests at HALF the strength?? There’s gotta be someone here who can beat this… Of course, they do not cover the cost for the broken board you provide, at least not from what I can read…

JSS

Richard Landingham, where are you? master of strength-to-weight flexible grooviness. i summon thee. you must put these clowns in their place.

(standing in front of mirror)…

“Richard Landingham, Richard Landingham, Richard Landingham”

nope…he didn’t appear. anyhow, his foam is some crazy stuff. aircraft glass minimizes unnecessary weight. and when we last spoke, he was even exploring some wild new resin alternatives with the hopes of building a board so strong you could tie the leash to the tailgate of your pickup, leave the board hanging out the back, and drag it to the beach…and it wouldn’t even have the slightest scratch or ding. sounds crazy…i know. but he’ll get there (if he hasn’t already).

Is that a bananna in HER bikini, or is HE just glad to see us?

If a board doesn’t ride well I don’t care how strong it is.

Yeah, whatever. A good surfboard has little to do with weight. Yes it is important but i’d rather surf a well shaped, proper flexed heavy board, than any light weight stiff, clunker railed pig.

I think that is a banananana in his g-string?

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So, it’s just braggin’ rights then?

I wonder what their board weighs and if there are weight classes, I mean I could build a solid titanium surfboard that would certainly be stronger than any carbon-fiber shell.

By the way, did you check out their “sex appeal” product shot?

Gross.

I think I actually threw up in my mouth a little when I saw that.

I laughed so hard at the “vommit in the mouth”, your hilarious!

Actually those hips do look a bit narrow and what’s up with the bikini, it looks like its on backwards and been pulled to the side, YIKES!!!

Sounds like an expensive way to vacuum bag and post cure. Inconsistency in the claims: He has to use expensive steel tooling to autoclave at 350 F? Seems to me that there are a variety of substances suitable for molding that hold up fine at that temp. I’m also interested in what happens to whatever he uses for a blank in that environment. And that chart is pure and utter BS, he doesn’t even tell you what the axis scale units are.

-Samiam

It looks interesting, it would be nice to think that they would surf well too.

The prices are reasonable

Pricing:

6.9 ft. board ……$750.00

10.6 ft. board ……$995.00

However as the Al Merrick has proved, a surfboards desirability is X% Marketing Y% Aesthetics Z% performance & 5% Durability

You can fill up the X,Y & Z as you please

Sorry for the ignorance, but who is Richard Landingham?

Also, I found the website by accident. I was admiring their work on the P-51 Mustang they have available (read: wishing and dreaming) and saw a ‘surfboard’ page… The P-51 is all composite, with a turboprop, I thought that was pretty cool.

JSS

Forgive me if I’m wrong but, wasn’t the P-51 the FIRST turboprop used in wartime by the U.S. government. If I remember correctly they could climb higher, steeper, faster than any other plane of the time. Then they’d come screaming back down at unbelievable speeds and blow the crap out of enemy aircraft. Excellent dive bombers. Very cool looking!

Sorry bout the hijack. :slight_smile:

Has anyone seen one of their boards in person? I’d be curious to check one out, just to see what all the fuss is about.

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Sorry for the ignorance, but who is Richard Landingham?

Also, I found the website by accident. I was admiring their work on the P-51 Mustang they have available (read: wishing and dreaming) and saw a ‘surfboard’ page… The P-51 is all composite, with a turboprop, I thought that was pretty cool.

JSS

Richard Landingham posted on here awhile back – “RichardL”. he made a bit of a sales pitch for his miracle foam formula that he developed, and a lot of people (myself included) thought he was full of --it. anyhow, it turns out that the guy’s got one helluva resume, and he’s as legit as they come. i got four of his blanks a short time ago to make a variety of boards – 9’1" comp longboard, 5’8" quad fish, 6’6" roundpin bonzer-5, and a 6’2" squash tail shorty. long story short – all the claims are true. the sponginess of the foam take a little getting used to, but the flex characteristics of the boards are unreal, and it feels very lively under the feet. and durability…oy vey. T. Patterson shaped a board for a team rider with Richard’s foam, and not only did he love it, but at last check he had been riding it for about 9 or 10 months, with no sign of snapping or losing its “spunk” any time soon. Patterson said that the rider would’ve gone through about 3 or 4 boards in that time period. although, this was a few months ago…but i must say i wouldn’t be surprised to learn that the kid was still riding it. anyhow, that’s why Richard’s foam can’t possibly have a place in production boardbuilding. those guys make surfboards to be disposable. boards made with LAP Extreme foam (LAP = Landingham Action Products) simply last too long. all the production guys would go out of business. anyhow, Richard is in San Clemente. i’m looking forward to my next trip out there so i can pick his brain. when i was placing my foam order, we talked a lot about the boards i was shaping with it, and about the industry in general. every 5 minute phone call lasted over an hour. the man is a wealth of knowledge, and he really knows his stuff. little guys like me sure could learn a lot from people like RichardL.

I’m not completely positive, but the only turbo versions of the Mustang were the Cavalier Turbo Mustang III and the Piper Enforcer. Neither of which were built by North American Aviation. They were built for a COunter INsurgency role (COIN), and ‘officially’ never saw service in the late 1960s and 1970s. I don’t even know that they received P (pursuit) or F (fighter) designations… The enforcer was built to take on a lot of ordnance, and had wingtip tanks…

The P-51 all the way through the P-51H version and the F-82 Twin Mustang (2 Mustang fuselages together with one wing and one horizontal stabilizer joining them), all used either the Allison or Rolls Royce Merlin V12s. That Merlin was one hell of an engine. 27 liter displacement, 4 valves per cylinder, centrifugally supercharged, and fuel injected (on later versions); these things that are advertised as ‘new’ or ‘state of the art’ on today’s cars and motorcycles. Funny that they all existed 60+ years ago…

My favorite is still the classic D-version, but the H is also pretty sleek…

Thanks soulstice, good info. What did you glass the boards with? RR2020?

JSS

People often wonder it’s like to live in my world!

Cool info Maxmercy, thanks.

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Thanks soulstice, good info. What did you glass the boards with? RR2020?

JSS

i glassed with RR2000, although Richard said he’s received the strongest results using polyester resin with some kind of “flex additive”. i figured 2000 would give me the closest match to that, with a little more spring than straight poly. too much flex in the lam could lead to a buckle, so i was hesitant to go with 2020. just because the foam can flex its way out of most damage doesn’t mean the glass can! glass schedule is double 4-oz top and bottom, both layers on each side wrapping the rails.