Just glassed the bottom of my board with epoxy (Safari blank, 6’1" stubby), but I frogot to put the Futures boxes in BEFORE laminating…What are my options at this point? Go with a different fin system? Just put them in after the lam??? ShEEit!
you can put 'em in after the lam. just be sure to cap the boxes with an extra layer of glass.
p.s. – i like ProBox fin system.
A little 50 grit sanding in the area where the boxes go and a double 4oz. cap will make things fairly strong. That’s what I’d do. I’ve retro fitted fin boxes into boards and had no problem at all. I just make sure that there’s a good strong laminated cap over them and do a little feathering around the edged, shoot a preliminary fill coat on feather again lightly and go with the final fill coat.
So shapers insist on doing it this way so they can be sure the fin boxes are set with the cant perfectly true to the laminated surface.
Mahalo, Rich
Thanks, that’s good to hear. I LOVE the Resin Research epoxy.
put in ProBox boxes, then you won’t have to cap or fill anything. I have an extra set if you don’t want to wait around for shipping. (Plus then you can adjust the cant on your fins later, as well as fore/aft position of the fins…)
Thanks for the offer Keith…
Can you buy the actual fins locally? I don’t recall seeing them anywhere. Special router needed for the boxes, or…?
install is ridiculously easy…if keith has the boxes, he’s got the jigs and can show you how to do it in about 2 minutes.
they have their own fins (with some really great templates), but the system can also take FCS fins with no adjustment necessary.
another good thing about the Pro-Boxes is it allows you to use FCS. Those are
available everywhere, so you are never stranded.
Pro-boxes are great for doing R&D with all their adjustability. You get custom
templated fins in fiberglass from Larry too.
Tools are basic, the jig IS the pour form, and a 1/4 inch laminate trimmer works
just like the one for Future fins…
…just hotcoat the thing and “git 'er done”.
DAMN! Those sound awesome, especially with the FCS “backwards compatability”! Ok Kieth, I’ll swing by for an install class whenever you have a spare minute (or 2?). So should I finish the lam on this board AND hotcoat it before installing the ProBoxes or what?
Yep, hotcoat then install the boxes. For EPS installs, you might want to wait until the mix
exotherms for a while before pouring… (you’re using a slow hardner I hope).
I’m working with a poly blank, RR eopxy and hardener (the medium stuff…“2000” I believe). Thanks for your help. I just watched the ProBox"Introcutory Video". The music is oh-so-soothing…LOL.
no problema, swing by sometime and I’ll show you how to do the install, only takes a few minutes.
as the rude advocate,
dont deny the possibility
that the glass on spirits
possessed yer body and mind
whilst yew werein the heat of enthusiasm
reachin fer thet there sweet resin.
when the glass on spirits have complete control over ya
there really is only one thing ta do,glass em on!
…ambrose…
glassed on a poly fin with rr epox
sure looks cool,
its a beach boy board…
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DAMN! Those sound awesome, especially with the FCS “backwards compatability”! Ok Kieth, I’ll swing by for an install class whenever you have a spare minute (or 2?).
So should I finish the lam on this board AND hotcoat it before installing the ProBoxes or what?
they are awesome! and yes, you install the boxes after hotcoat…but remember, they need a 6-oz reinforcement under the boxes. if you didn’t do that in the lam, you can put a 4-oz patch of glass in the hole once you’ve routed it out.
It is really important to add this extra reinforcement. If you have not yet added the hotcoat you can simply apply the patches in the appropriate areas on top of the lam and then do the hot coat.
If you do this, lightly sand the installation area so there are no bumps under the install jig before proceeding with the installation.
-Robin
Howzit soulstice, Don’t you mean a reinforcement patch over the area where the box will be installed. I’ve never heard about putting glass in the hole and I had Mitch show me how to install them when they first came out.Aloha,Kokua
from the probox website:
sounds to me like if either you are doing a tint and don’t want it to show darker around the boxes, or you just forget and hotcoat without laminating the patches, you can get away with a little 4-oz in the hole.
Howzit soulstice,They must have added that later because I've seen Mitch do quite a few installs with no glass in the hole and he never said anything about doing it.Aloha,Kokua
the newest technique has been to use fiberglass rope in the hole during install. An email is
going to be issued soon about it…
Rope it is then…I have a bunch left over…Thanks.