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Been out of the water for a week with a really tender elbow. The inside bone got sore 2+ weeks ago and kept getting worse till I wasn’t having fun so I gave it a rest. I had been suring almost every day 1-2 hours, some days 2 sessions along with a little swimming in a pool. It is alot better but still sore. I am reluctant to go back out untill all the pain is gone. Any advice from those with similar problems would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Roger

Hey P.M. You must have strained or over use something in there. You’ve got to rest unless you want a cronic problem. After two weeks you’re pretty well past any possiblity of swelling. The more circulation in the area the better. Some will recomment ice, ice, ice and nothing else. I think you can use both ice and heat at this point and be pretty safe. 20 min. of ice an hour a part twice a day can’t hurt you. Leting the hot water run on it when you in the shower and getting it flushed with blood will help too. Ease back into full on activity. How old you are and what kind of shape your in will have everything to do with the speed of your recovery. Mahalo, Rich

Roger, The use of the word “bone” in the discription of your injury makes me feel that you should seek medical advice, just to be on the safe side. You never know what it could be. Accidental ingestion of the water at the “bu” can lead to many interesting ailments, including cancer. Remember what happened to me a couple of years ago? Go see a Dr. asap! Paul D.(volvo wagon filled with Liddles)

Roger, After years of riding surfboards, kneeboards, and various paipos and bodyboards, I developed extra cartilage growth (“repetitive trauma related to sports or occupation”) on the front edges of my rib cage and on both elbows. Often painful. Riding prone on hard (or even firm-padded) unforgiving surfaces, and absorbing all the transferred shock/stress of chop, airborn impacts and hard turns into my body through the elbows and rib cage inevitably took its toll. Much the same result as “surfers knots” from repeated friction/pressure between the surfboard and the body part exposed to the repeated trauma. The same thing happened to 2 of my largest knuckles on each hand from full contact (especially breaking things) martial arts training. I was advised that elimination/reduction of the source of mechanical or repetitive trauma might improve the lesions. Over time, that`s proved to be true for me. Interestingly, the more I rode my surfmats, the less of a problem I had, as mats do not pressure point the elbows or rib cage, and absorb much of the shock from chop, airborn impacts and hard turns. Today, most of my rib/elbow “knuckles” are long gone. You might try using your surfmat a little bit until your body has had time to heal. Dale

You are bound to get a bunch of opinions on this. I’ll cut to the chase. See a DOCTOR. It’s probably not serious but if it is, you’ll be glad you did.

Having just spent time visiting a friend in the hospital who wondered a long, long time about discomfort, I agree with those who say see a doctor.

paavo ariola pg 160somthing “How to get well”…bottom of the pageTendonitus… manganese supplement…4$ 100 tabs take them acouple a day see what happens the bottle should run out in 50 days …tendonitus is also called tennis elbow pitchers elbow swimmers shoulder…fixing a windshield wiper blade is quick and cheap…before replacing the wind shield, doctors are good for diagnosis if he says tendonitus … pharmaceuticals are for symptomatic treatment this specific mineral added to your sumptious diet oooh baby also consider food sources perhaps missing from your daily diet especialy in times of heavy training,a quick convient meal is the norm , treatment is a matter of personal choice…physical therapy…yoga- pilates …stretches can open you up toa balanced physiogamy and alife of full mobility gettin old? is an adventure ahhhhhhh welcome to the club we can meet any where an’ discuss surf pains I proned out about 20 times in the last 2 days but my back hurts more from paddling …my previous high percentage of mat go outs left my paddling mucuscles atrophied and now I pay the price for my mind directintg my body to paddle so many miles let alone carring them 11’+ boards back and forth to the beach from the house.oh yeah long prone glides communing with the IONS feeling the bubbles all around the feet soothing the Kneel paddlingbump scar tissue on the top of my foot these are the thing that validate our suspicions that we are alive congratulations on your sore shoulder may it be well soon yea doctor george dempsey is a cool doctor but he moved to new york aloha from waipouli ambrose

Dang, Roger, I’ve been out with a farked shoulder since I rode that offset fin board of yours (I had fallen earlier in the day). I just let it rest for a few weeks as the dr. ordered since it wasn’t anything mechanical. Tried surfing somewhere else last wknd and it’s getting better. Could be a repetitive stress type thing, no? Is it the elbow that you move your mouse with? At one time, I had that problem and switched to a trackball. Much better. See a Dr. --jay

Howzit Jay, I was diagnosed with an injured rotor cuff in my right shoulder this last week. Asked the doc about paddleing an he said no way ( doc is an avid surfer ) He says it’ll take about 6 weeks + of therapy to get it right for the fall time. Still haven’t figured out how I injured it, But then again as alot of has done I figure I’ve paddled around the world a couple of times. Aloha, Kokua

Roger- go see a specialist or two-i had/have problems with shoulders.chiro and regualr doc though it was strained,etc.after getting to the opoint that i couldn’t lift my arm out even with shoulder went to doc Nickel-i have bone spurs in my shoulders.groung the right side down, now for the left.Also get with a good physical therapist-they can show you some helpful exercises .I do mine religiously and that has heped alieve the problem in left side(to a certain extent) and strengthen my right side.I definitely go thru a particular stretch routine each time before i hit the water.

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Thanks for all the advice. I have scheduled an appt. with a Doc. and it is getting better although I think it may be at least another week before I paddle again. Might be a good time to get out the 4th Gear Flyer!! Muchas Gracias Roger

I’ll ask my wife, the Occupatinal Therapist, what she thinks it is. Sounds like what they call tennis elbow but that usually occurs on the outside of the joint. Unless you’ve banged it on something, it’s probably a “repetitive injury syndrome” (RIS) injury to which WILL re-occur if you don’t figure out what’s causing it. I learned the hard way about incorrect paddle stroke mechanics and developed should problems. Age has something to do with it. Anyway, after fixing my shoulder problems by working with my wife and a PT and a swim coach. I know what NOT to do when paddling. 1) Don’t overextend (reaching too far out infront) 2) Don’t start pulling hard until your arm is down at 45 Deg. angle in front of you. 3) Don’t internally rotate your arm (I would suspect this is your problem) This is a tough one to understand but it puts your whole shoulder and elbow out of alignment. Experienced swimmers know all about this. Causes the dreaded “swimmer’s (surfer’s) shoulder” and elbow problems. To avoid this don’t (on recovery) lift your elbow any higher than an a imagery straight line drawn from shoulder to shoulder. When reaching out with your hand don’t rotate you hand so that your thumb enters the water first. This internally rotates your whole arm (BAD)Enter with index finger or outside part of hand. After 3 years of battling shoulder problems I can now paddle and swim as hard and as long as I want with NO shoulder pain as long as I don’t do the above. P.s- I’m 53.