I just shaped a foam fish and am planning on adding wooden nose and tail blocks.I would also like to use a resin tint, but not on the blocks. My plan is to glass the board, cut off spaces for the blocks, and then glass the blocks.Is this the correct procedure and what are the pitfalls? Thank you for your time.Patrick
I just shaped a foam fish and am planning on adding wooden nose and tail > blocks.I would also like to use a resin tint, but not on the blocks. My > plan is to glass the board, cut off spaces for the blocks, and then glass > the blocks.Is this the correct procedure and what are the pitfalls? Thank > you for your time.Patrick I would also like to know how a tail block is installed? Do you shape the board first, or do you first cut out the outline then glue the block onto the blank and shape them together? Just wondering, becasue i think i’m going to put one on a 9’1" Y triple stringer blank, i’m getting ready to shape. Thanks, Stephen Berube
I would also like to know how a tail block is installed? Do you shape the > board first, or do you first cut out the outline then glue the block onto > the blank and shape them together? Just wondering, becasue i think i’m > going to put one on a 9’1" Y triple stringer blank, i’m getting ready > to shape. Thanks, Stephen Berube Not to go Coral on you but try looking this stuff up in the Archives. Not only will you find Jim’s opinion but many others. There is an unbelievable amount of information in there on almost all facets of shaping and glassing. Anyway; first you shape the blank. Then cut the nose or tail portion off (as square as you can). Shape your wood to match the portion you cut off and glue (resin) it to the blank. Then you glass. If you try to shape the wood after you tack it on the blank you’ll tend to dig into the foam as the foam is softer than the wood. Newbs
Not to go Coral on you but try looking this stuff up in the Archives. Not > only will you find Jim’s opinion but many others. There is an unbelievable > amount of information in there on almost all facets of shaping and > glassing. Anyway; first you shape the blank. Then cut the nose or tail > portion off (as square as you can). Shape your wood to match the portion > you cut off and glue (resin) it to the blank. Then you glass. If you try > to shape the wood after you tack it on the blank you’ll tend to dig into > the foam as the foam is softer than the wood.>>> Newbs Thanks, for the info and not going Coral on me. I know sometimes the Archives comes up with all types of stuff when you do a search, but i’ll make sure i do a search next time. Again, thanks for both. Later, Stephen Berube
Use 5 min. Epoxy to attach the tail block to foam.
Use 5 min. Epoxy to attach the tail block to foam. Won’t the Expoxy melt the foam? Thanks, Stephen Berube
Won’t the Expoxy melt the foam? Thanks, Stephen Berube Sorry, Epoxy
Sorry, Epoxy Yeah, I think you use expoxy to remove epoxy…right?
Yeah, I think you use expoxy to remove epoxy…right? No, no that’s Depoxy… no, the poly will melt eps foam but epoxy works on both, if I remember correctly
No, no that’s Depoxy…>>> no, the poly will melt eps foam but epoxy works on both, if I remember > correctly Listen, I beg to differ on this nose/tailblock method mentioned above. I have always had success glassing the board first using tints, pigments or paints and then cuting off the tail or nose, sanding back the glass, clear or black resining on the block and then shaping, sanding it to fit the lines of the board. This way you avoid getting fine wood dust in the foam and you d’ont damage the foam and you can then glass it clear with hotcoat then sand and finish as usual.
No, no that’s Depoxy… Depoxy just breaks the bond, expoxy removes the glue…;-l
If you are going to tint and paint the board I would agree. But if you are going clear you are going to get a lot nicer, lighter, stronger lam by doing it all at once. And its easier for the beginner… Newbs
Barge, Thanks. Patrick
I just shaped a foam fish and am planning on adding wooden nose and tail > blocks.I would also like to use a resin tint, but not on the blocks. My > plan is to glass the board, cut off spaces for the blocks, and then glass > the blocks.Is this the correct procedure and what are the pitfalls? Thank > you for your time.Patrick This is exactly what I have done on many a colored board. Get your board to the hot coat stage, lay out for the angles you want ( tip is to make the miters first and make the board fit those) glue on the blocks, it is easy to sand them down against the hot coated board. Sand about 3-4" around the blocks, enough to get down to the weave, then glass and hot coat that area, your set.
I would also like to know how a tail block is installed? Do you shape the > board first, or do you first cut out the outline then glue the block onto > the blank and shape them together? Just wondering, becasue i think i’m > going to put one on a 9’1" Y triple stringer blank, i’m getting ready > to shape. Thanks, Stephen Berube Take your shape home completely before attaching a tail block, Cut off and square up, glue on with 5 min epoxy, use a minimal amt. when set up tape around your tail block with 2 layers of masking tape, then grind it down flush to the board. This will take a little while to get the feel of, if you sand through the tape, just retape and start again.
This is exactly what I have done on many a colored board. Get your board > to the hot coat stage, lay out for the angles you want ( tip is to make > the miters first and make the board fit those) glue on the blocks, it is > easy to sand them down against the hot coated board. Sand about 3-4" > around the blocks, enough to get down to the weave, then glass and hot > coat that area, your set. Thanks for your time, Jim. I just couldn’t find the exact answer in the archives. Patrick
Thanks, Jim for all your help and info. I’ll give it a try. I’ll shape, then cut tail, glue block and sand down. Glass board and hot coat. I think it will work. Was worried about tail block strenght, but i’m sure it will turn out. Thanks Jim and everyone else for all your help. Later, Stephen Berube
Thanks, for the info and not going Coral on me. I know sometimes the > Archives comes up with all types of stuff when you do a search, but i’ll > make sure i do a search next time. Again, thanks for both. Later, Stephen > Berube How do you spell bARF? With a capital i’m gonna. I still love you newbs. Have fun!
Coral, did your dad get the air bag yet? How’s he like it? Newbs
Coral, did your dad get the air bag yet? How’s he like it?>>> Newbs Not yet. But, I have all of the faith in the world, that Mr. Solomnson knows exactly what he’s doing, and deserves all of the time that he needs without a little whipper-snapper whining, or acting impatient. I’m sure that, this fine surf mat will be the best one that he has made so far. The lucky person that gets the one after my dad’s, will have the finest surf mat that he has ever made as well. Mr. Solomnson seems like that kind of a soul. He does not charge enough money for all of his experience. I should know, I don’t charge near enough to “mow” the neighbors grasses, with all of my experience. But, I sure have pride in the results. Mr. Solomnson does too! Just read anything that he writes. Love ya newbs, have fun! Coral P.S. Mr. Solomnson, please take all of the time that you need, and thanks …