Here are a few pics to mostly show the rocker and foil of my most recent hull. the stringer is tapered again, but this time the whole board overall is thinner, thus the tail was severely bladed
its got a kevlar deck patchā¦This was my first time with full kevlarā¦what a beast! even for a patch it gave me some issues, i found carbon to be alot friendlier in the end!
that is a very fine looking surfcraft. Number of hulls I have seen this winter during the numerous days of perfect point surf we have had so far : zero. Is this just a Cali phenomena? sure would love to have a go on one at macking Lennox.
im not sure what it is exactlyā¦but people are noticing them alot more recently, hence the numbers being built by numerous different people. Id like to think its worldwide, or at least getting moreso
iām sure these boards will always be niche ā too few people get the right conditions for them. And surf culture being āPopā as it is, wellā¦
Iām sure more will be builtā¦ cuz of the mag articles ā¦ but to the uneducated the hull looks too āfunboardishāā¦ and looks iz what itās all about these days.
Same goes for mats. ( best advise i got was: donāt try to sell people on matsā¦ itās like bible thumpingā¦ same could be said for hulls)
The guys who seem to go for something like a hull or a mat, are the ones who look deeper into things, and who can look at a design and see how (and where) it works. 99.9% people who surf today are not like that.
ive seen a few twinny hulls before, and the guy that i know who rides them absolutley swears by them. I trust what he says about them, hes got all different variations of hulls and kneeboardsā¦spoons and the like, he says he loves his twin hulls though!
if you tihnk of the lineageā¦greenough kneeboard transitioned to hull surfboards, twin fishies were created as kneeboards as wellā¦mix and match all you like, id give one a go
i wouldnt say it would be a full blown hull, but i bet it would be a fun ride none the less!
by āfull blown hullā do you mean that the it wouldnāt be a ātrueā [traditional?] hull, or that if placed on a twin keel fish, it would need to be somewhat less than a ātrueā hull in order to work.
i guess those are synomousā¦
ā¦or, do you mean to say that it wouldnāt ride like a traditonal hull.
I see a big part of the full-blown hull is the high-profile flexfin. The fins flex characteristics are key to the down-the-line hull feel. i would imagine the twin-keel wouldnāt have that ā even if the bottom was convex. however Leev rides an anderson pescado, which is a hull bottom with a thruster cluster on it ā and he has good things to say about it.
greenough built a balsa sponn twin fin. kept moving fins closer and closer to get all components balanced and working right.fins got so close he ended up putting a single fin on it-voila!perfect balnce and performanceā¦
I see a big part of the full-blown hull is the high-profile flexfin. The fins flex characteristics are key to the down-the-line hull feel. i would imagine the twin-keel wouldnāt have that ā even if the bottom was convex. however Leev rides an anderson pescado, which is a hull bottom with a thruster cluster on it ā and he has good things to say about it.
thats the oneā¦i think you could call it a hull, techincally youd be just about thereā¦template wise they are similar, rocker wise they are similar, it would just be the buttcrack and the fins making the difference.
and to answer the question about my friendā¦hes a long time SB native thats deep into hullsā¦i think he went to school with greenough, or at least he knew/knows him well. Hes got a crazy collection of old boards, very cool stuff to mull over
one thing to point out is greenoughs hulls were deep-2" plus or minus, whereas most hulls for stand-up are an 1" plus or minus.therefore, with a less severe hull multi fins will work to some degree.
i'm sure these boards will always be niche -- too few people get the right conditions for them. And surf culture being "Pop" as it is, well....
I think more the second reason than the first. Design can be varied a bit for different conditions. Tiny wind swellā¦nothing works in that. But I rode my Spence yesterday in semi-mush, 3-4 foot beach break and had a great time. Not slapping up and down like a thruster but feeling the various forces of the wave and the board working together, finding the line(s) and blending with the wave, occasional speed run. Itās a lot a matter of taste i.e. what you want out of surfing and most peopleās taste has been seared into their brains by media onslaught/hypnosis. I think if more people start riding them well (emphasis on āwellā, which likely leaves me out) there will be a small snowball effect. Hard to argue with the flowing lines drawn.
exactly, same reason skip pulls his tri cluster together, maximum drive, maximu pivot, pull it all the way together and you get a single fin. iāve had recent ideas and dreams of trying to replicate a midlength simmons spoon but with modern components added together. iāve had a chance to ride the replica built for cher pendarvis and rk, but i think something in the mid length range would be sweet!
josh- check archives for a spence-simmons. itās a 7ā4" simmons type board he made after paul gross made a few full length one several years ago. iāve ridden a few of them(longer ones) and man do they fly, even in the tiniest of surf!
