I’m thinking about ordering a Liddle board and just wanted some opinions on them. They look great and I think it would be a great board for me to have. I surf off the front foot alot, especially with my board that I have currently, so it shouldn’t be a huge adjustment for me.(I hope). I’m gonna order the “point board” from off his website. He starts production again in april so I have some time to find out some opinions. Thanks, Tom
it’ll be custom it’ll be different it’ll be great it’ll not be regretted
I was thinking the same thing, but the in-betweener shape.
sounds good.what type of wave do you usually surf?
i’ve ridden some other hulls mostly for short periods, a couple of go outs or so. you should know that you might have to dedicate some time to these boards. this particular design has the unique ability to expose your weaknesses as a surfer but when put in the right place, at the right time, in the right way, they’re amazing. so i would encourage you to get one, expand your surfing and all that crap. but… let your girlfriend know you’ll be seeing someone else for a while… she’s liddle, full figured and really fast. p.s. “captain kirk the pool man” will give you the details.
Classic!!!
For me, it would mainly be in east coast beachbreak because that’s where I live…when a longer period groundswell is running w/ offshore winds, the jetties organize the waves fairly nicely. Generally speaking, on these days, the waves stay open, allowing you to fade on the drop in and generate speed for long sweeping turns all the way across the beach, moving up on the board to drive through the little tubey sections. There are some points I do get to, as well as regular trips to PR for the semi point of Marias PR and the wide-open-face waves of Wilderness. I ride all types of boards, including some older transition shapes like a Chuck Dent double-ender “experience” flex fin egg (is this a true hull? the bottom seems like it, but I never here it mentioned here). I generally prefer singles and am comfortable with moving up on the board and “front foot” surfing. I also have several flex fins I mainly use, including the Greenough 9.5 4A and the 9.0 L-Flex. These aren’t great photos, but here is a 2 shot sequence riding an 8.0 mini-longboard with the Greenough 4A: The first shot is about mid-way through my ride, driving off the bottom towrds the next turn, moving fairly fast: http://www.surfnpics.com/September6th,2003/images/100_0078_jpg.jpg The second shot follows this bottom turn as I’ve come across thr top and started driving down again: http://www.surfnpics.com/September6th,2003/images/100_0079_jpg.jpg I know points are the ideal set-up, but I am willing to wait for the right moment to use a real hull like one of Liddle’s. What do you think? Thansk for the input.
I have a 6’-10 Liddle egg that I would not sell for anything. Greg made it for me in 1984 or 1985. It is a great point break board. Also works good on long walls. It’s not a beach break board.
Get the Liddle! No need to look for point waves outside the Northeast. There`s plenty of long, clean walls from Novia Scotia down through New Jersey. Most in the range of 2’- 6’. Some of the finest are in New Hampshire and Rhode Island. Perfect for Liddles!
Hi Block Islander, Yes, I spent 4 winters up in New England and enjoyed all the varied breaks up there. There’s also some options in my neck of the woods. I know that Tim Campbell who posts here rides one at my homebreak, so I’ll probably ask him . On Liddle’s website, the inbetween shape is what I’m looking at. Thanks.
dubstar i saw the evidence, the photos are nice and i’m technically wooed. you’ll do fine on a liddle, go for it. you know what kind of waves your looking for, you’ll find them. the whole point break thing is sort of a no brainer, of course it’s ideal but whatever. also, concerning the inbetween shape it seems it’s best suited for your surf conditions in the east . there is also the option of just going all the way with this logic. i mean if your going to ride a hull when the waves get really good then you want the board to work really good. so, if were to review the historical data and you were going to stand on this hull and not kneel… get ted spencer on that shit, we should all go 5’6" or go home. that’s it, somebody call paul gross… or better yet, pause inner most limits and trace the template. any takers? p.s. just wait til the pool man gets here…
yes, oakland, you read my mind! greenough, evolution, and innermost on constant rotation, lately checking for lis and pavel, soon to order a twin keel in the 5’8 range, would go short on a hull, as well, but checking liddle’s current thought and evolution leads to boads in the 7’ range? anyway, thanks for the input, I’ve ridden almost everything but hulls, as you tend to see 60’s shapes and 70’s singles on the east coast. the underground doesn’t seem to have filtered down, probably because the guys who had them kept them. PS What about my Chuck Dent I mentioned above? It’s in the 7-8 range, almost a double ender with a big round tail, and the bottom is probably the closest thing to a hull I’ve ever ridden (without knowing what the actual liddle style boards look like). Boogie With The Chuck Dent Experience Hendrix acid logos and a red clear flex fins. Rides well, I’ve got some video, but only on a smaller day. Is it actually a hull? Or a more of a late transition shape?
you may want to consider a template he has that i sent him.he made a 7’2" version of it for a friend"nates plate".it’s single fin, wide tail with pulled, but round nose,with wide point back a hair in omparison to his ponit break model. might be a more versatlie template for your surfing needs.Of course, talk this over with Greg before making a decision.
after review of photos, echoing the slider’s comments, you could ride a full blown, stringerless, baseball bat templated extreme machine in those waves !
I get to chime in here as I have been riding a new 7’1" Point Plan Shape that my wife surprised me with on Christmas day- Total stoke. I rode a few Liddle eggs back in the early 70s as a kid (first true shortboards for me actually) and went on to ride the full gambit of surfboard designs, settling on the Thruster mostly over the past 20 years- Im not a small guy (6’ and around 225lbs), and the 7’1" is a shortboard to me. Surfed some real quality Point surf through the Ventura/Santa Barbara area, and the board just flys!- Surf a bit forward, use the rail as the focal point for your turn and start by easing the board through the paces- Move around a little on it and you’ll hit the sweet spot- A weight forward trim is your friend- utilizing the middle of the wave as your acceration zone. The speed/Glide you can experience with out the pump pump pump, is a real trat. The board is incredibly loose, and is saturated with single fin smooth. (Be good to your fin, as he is a key part of the system) Every one has there own idea about whats right. I say, if you have access to some clean lined up surf, Id highly recomend feeling one of these under your feet if your up of a serous stoke re-charge! Steve
Thanks, Matt. I didn’t want to bother Greg before I was really ready to send the money; I’ll definitely discuss it with him before ordering anything. The information you guys have supplied is much appreciated!
So, Steve, you seem to be riding it smaller than Liddle recommends and it’s wotking great? That’s something else to consider. Thanks!
Dubstar- You Know, Length is a relative thing. All of my experimental Thruster/Egg type Boards Prior to this, were in the 6’6" to 6’8" Range. I Still Have a Channel Islands “Old Blue” type Hybrid, that I really Like as well- Its a different Critter entirely though- (a bit more functional in an a** whomping reef type situation). From my perspective, whats key is keeping enough foam under your chest to paddle sufficiently. My Liddle is very thin in the Tail and thin in the nose as well. The thin rails belie the actual thickness of the Board through the center (With the domed deck). Its actually a Joy to paddle, compared to many other boards in the same length range, that I have surfed, width being the key here! I have ridden my share of Transition Boards as well- and have liked many. I tend to get better results out of them with more modern fins though. I Imagine you will find the performance capability quite different on a new Liddle/Vs and older Hull design- You will be reaping the benefits of Years of fine tuning a very functional, and astheticly pleasing surf craft!
dubstar- I have been riding Liddles exclusively for over 35 years. I currently have a 7’2", 7’6", and 8’ eggs, a full 7’8" Liddle gun, as well as a 7’8" inbetweener. The eggs are super for points. Living in Torrance,CA. , beachbreaks abound and the inbetweener is just so sweet in the peaky conditions. I find that it works well at point breaks too. It is a much easier board to learn to surf than the eggs. Greg is easy to work with. Enjoy, PJ
Hey Steve thanks for the note,glad your back on a Liddle. Its been 30yrs since you and Willy came into Yaters you guys were little hippys rippin Sharkscove .Hope your familys doin good.Tom sounds like these guys covered it .oakland slider I gotta glass your fins on now ,Tom if you have any ? just ask.Everybody should go to 5’6’'??? os I just turned 50.Greenough would Rag on me when I started to ride longer boards 8 ft plus and say @#(!+ Putnam do you wana paddle or SURF!!!