The PM’s started with art work and moved on to multi fin set ups. Bonzers, quads, twins, twinzers ect…
I like what was sent to me and this link seemed to be right on the mark http://www.lindensurfboards.com/05_ttquad.html
This set up looks RIGHT to me. Forget about the Clark vs Walker war. (No bad vibes please).
Something about this board hits home…
Oh yeah , , , , , I think I have one in the rafters…vintage unknown…
Can one of you Photo Gurus do a side by side photo ???
Please
The PM’s started with art work and moved on to multi fin set ups. Bonzers, quads, twins, twinzers ect…
I like what was sent to me and this link seemed to be right on the mark http://www.lindensurfboards.com/05_ttquad.html
This set up looks RIGHT to me. Forget about the Clark vs Walker war. (No bad vibes please).
Something about this board hits home…
Oh yeah , , , , , I think I have one in the rafters…vintage unknown…
Can one of you Photo Gurus do a side by side photo ???
Please
Stingray….
Nice looking design. Moving further into the multi fin ideas and looking at the fin system used in the Quad on Gary’s site made me think of and exiting new fin system I am now beginning to experiment with. Imagine that board in your photo or any other design you find appealing. Then imagine being able to adjust the cant from 0 to 8 degrees in two degree increments or adjust the fin forward or backward using one system and not having to use multiple fins.
I have been looking at the Pro Box Fin systems by Fiber Glass fin company and they seem to have found the missing link of fin box systems. What I like most is you can use your favorite set of fins combined with inserts that allow cant adjustment and forward or back adjustment at much less cost; rather buying numerous (and more limited ) fin cants from some of the other companies out there. This effectively makes a surfboard that you can ride in almost any fin configuration imaginable with the added bonus of adjusting any of those fin configurations to fit the wave type your riding.
I see many Fish and other boards sold as high performance models and I don’t doubt for a minute those models work as they are advertised. However……being a truly high performance model could also include the bonus of expandability….making it “the” high performance model instead of simply another high performance model. A model that needs more sets of fins for differing conditions and has limited expandability.
I remember when we used to hear talk of empty fin boxes causing turbulence (which I don’t believe was ever really the case) This system even thought of that. They have made floating plug inserts replacing the weight and foam that was taken out for the box and giving the board bottom a better look than empty slots.
With a few sets of extra fins it seems possible that you can actually have one board that you can ride in the many different fin set ups…completely expandable and for almost any wave condition imaginable. It has caught my attention and I can’t wait to put it to use.
I will post some more pics of thruster and single set ups.
Hello Solo ,
Glad you discovered ProBox. I got turned on to the system at the Swaylocks Big Sur gathering in fall of 2005. Kieth and MarkSSD were using the system and the install is cheap and easy. Lots of other good fin systems out there too like Lockbox and futures and FCS.
My photos are just poking fun at all the seriousness that goes on around here. Take a good long look at the outline on my vintage early 1980’s Linden surfboard.
Now click on the link and look at the outline on the Linden quad. Might even be the same template !!!
Hey !!! I’ve got a vintage quad too. Let me play around with photobucket and I’ll see if I can post a photo.
Kinda like the PT Crusier ,new but old at the same time.
Retro dude 
Have fun
Ray
Aloha Stingray
You have a good eye. Overlaying the templates (photos) on each other they were almost exact!
The White cut out in the red is the actual template of the new Linden Quad. The black inset is the old Linden Tri fin (low resolution of the photo made it a bit ragged.
Since they actually matched so perfect… I Scaled the New Quad’s template cut out ever so slightly so that there was enough white gap to more easily compare the templates.
Whoaaaaa…!!! Thats wild
I like Gary Lindens designs. I’m sure the rails and rockers are all different with the new Quads.
Thanks for the post Bill.
Hey Bill …what’s your take on quads?
[Blue]I couldn’t help doing the bottoms too.
Note the fins… tri fins are a near match to the quads for center of lateral resistance
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I am on my way home Silverback, it is midnight here
I will try to respond tomorrow
Hello Solo ,
Glad you discovered ProBox. I got turned on to the system at the Swaylocks Big Sur gathering in fall of 2005. Kieth and MarkSSD were using the system and the install is cheap and easy. Lots of other good fin systems out there too like Lockbox and futures and FCS.
Ray
Being a retailer as well as simply a surfer looking for the best options. Not one of those other fins companies comes close to the pro systems for versitility. IMO. The Lockbox can move back and forth but not adjust the cant and the other two in my opinion only exist at this point because they have been around awhile and have the name. To me…FCS is the worst of the lot and since futures started making some of their changes…Not so sure about them anymore either. I have no dog in the hunt…the pro box appears to be the fin system. I am always on the look out for new and better products and when I find one it’s always exiting. Since I ride rounder domed bottoms…most fin systems don’t work…it now appears one may.
Regarding ProBox
Per CMP Surfco Dave’s got some exciting stuff in the works(currently alpha testing)…
I like his new one piece comfy non-scratching tailpad design especially the clear one for compsands…
Don’t know why anyone ever thought of that before, but that’s Dave…
Last time I saw him in the water a couple years back he said he’d like to sell out retire and work on all the ideas in his head.
I guess he decided to stay on and punch through with the new stuff he wanted to get into…
According to CMP Dave’s box can handle them all, just like his fins did…
I hope he is recognized one day for what he’s brought to the industry in the name of surf safety.
Back on topic
That Linden quad goes all the way back to George O’s book doesn’t it?
And speaking of quads,
Why doesn’t Glen Winton ever get recognized for his efforts to estabish the quad as a viable design although the glove thing him, Foo and Schmidt tried kind of got poopoo’d except out westside where allot of folks including Buffalo uses a new version… Winton riding his quad all over northshore used to be an eye opener. And only a few people ever knew until later that Curren was riding a Mckee Quattro in that famous Search1 Jeffrey’s Bay sequence.
Regarding ProBox
Per CMP Surfco Dave’s got some exciting stuff in the works(currently alpha testing)…
I like his new one piece comfy non-scratching tailpad design especially the clear one for compsands…
Don’t know why anyone ever thought of that before, but that’s Dave…
Last time I saw him in the water a couple years back he said he’d like to sell out retire and work on all the ideas in his head.
I guess he decided to stay on and punch through with the new stuff he wanted to get into…
According to CMP Dave’s box can handle them all, just like his fins did…
I hope he is recognized one day for what he’s brought to the industry in the name of surf safety.
Back on topic
That Linden quad goes all the way back to George O’s book doesn’t it?
And speaking of quads,
Why doesn’t Glen Winton ever get recognized for his efforts to estabish the quad as a viable design although the glove thing him, Foo and Schmidt tried kind of got poopoo’d except out westside where allot of folks including Buffalo uses a new version… Winton riding his quad all over northshore used to be an eye opener. And only a few people ever knew until later that Curren was riding a Mckee Quattro in that famous Search1 Jeffrey’s Bay sequence.
Oneuela,
So true. Like wide tailed singles…I have almost always had a quad in my boardroom. I rode a little lazor zap quad back in the 90’s when everyone else was struggling on their little elf shoe rockered out skinnny thrusters. Unfortunately…many valid designs get passed over because it’s simply easier for the mags and etc. to be on to the next thing. Another reason I dislike so called surfing institutions and magazines. Imagine a pro tour like the early eighties when each surfer has his own design ideas and new things were considered. It sure didn’t take long for that to go away. Espcially when you add to it a few people in the industry side trying to control everything to benefit themselves.
Buran…Winton both rode quads. I always thought if you liked multi finned boards…the quad made way more sense than either the twin or the thruster. I like it all…but obviosly prefer some more than others. I know some shapers don’t think the customer really likes messing with fin cant and etc. but I have customers like to mess with all aspects of surfboards and love experimenting. I guess thats the appeal of the probox system to me. It appears to pretty much have it all.
it would be nice to see a fin box thread with some of those with alot of knowledge posting their theories on the different ones. Keep in mind…often the most popular is nothing more than the one that got there first and needs to hold onto their market share.
Stingray.
Last week in was in that glass shop in our neck of the woods. you know the one near the longJohnsilvers/KFC. I saw a few of those Linden’s in the process of being glassed. I didn’t get a change to ask about those particular boards. but yea they were kind of retroish except they didn’t have raggedy florescent paint job or the giant sized Linden logo. the boards were all white.
I like the Quads that Eddie from Island influence shapes. From what I have seen II’s quads ride great for the average dude.
I have couple of sets of some 80’s quads laying my shop somewhere I could post them if you like…
Ben.
This is board #2 in my three board 80’s collection…
Notice the swallow tail and not quite wing (hip)
I just don’t have this photo bucket thing figured out yet…
This board has many of the key design elements of a modern proformance fish/quad. Hip/wing at the fin ,swallow tail ,Vee bottom, wide outline… The rear fins have a larger base. The front fins are slightly taller and thinner. All the fins appear to have the same amount of foil. The logo says “The Shape of the 80’s”. Ronnie Williamson.
I think this shaper was ahead of his time.
...4 Years later.....
A thread on Swaylock's sends me to a supplier at 291 Roymar Road , Oceanside ,Ca.
I pulled that old Linden board down from the rafters and took some quick deminsions....I hauled ass down Hwy 78 in my Toyota Matrix pretending I was in a real sports car. The guy at the counter was like an old friend.....he invited me in, handed me a US Blanks catalog and showed me around. They were out of the blank I wanted but I picked up a 6'5" EPS that's perfect for this project.....
...Back at the Low Tech Lab I layed the old Linden on top of the new blank and traced the outline with a marking pen. The old board is wider than the new blank.....
What I have right now is a blank 6'3" x 20 1/2" x 3"....fat tail quad ......I plan to trim everything down a little....There's no customer....I don't ride boards this small....There's more nose rocker than planned, but that will make it more modern...Right?...Ha ha ha...I can feel it...I have to build this board....and i want to put a wood veneer skin on it....
I think I just Overdosed on Swaylock's Cool Aide.....
bottom shape anyone?????
Have fun guys and girls
Stingray
stingray,
if i had your skills i would add a board long vee with a double in it, Webber inspired like…
you know what i mean? that would tilt the 20+ onto rail quickly and drive the board through its paces
sways cool aid rules!
