I have a question for you guys to consider regarding cutaway fins pioneered by Nat Young and George Greenough in the mid sixties.This was the beginning of the short board concept and high performance power surfing…it pretty much dealt a death blow to old style nose riding and trimming,within the blink of an eye classic longboards were history.I love old surf films and the classic guys did just fine on the old style big fins.Were these fins that bad?I see them on retro wall hangers but not many in the water.Nowadays probably 90% of the longboards are using fin boxes.There seems to be a huge interest in nose riding these days but you can’t seem to get old style humpback fins to fit in a box…most of the boxes are 10 inches so you wouldn’t be able to adjust the fin but it is just a thought…is anybody trying this?Did we lose something here?Did these fins give us more down the line stability.I dunno…just curious I guess.
I have a question for you guys to consider regarding cutaway fins > pioneered by Nat Young and George Greenough in the mid sixties.This was > the beginning of the short board concept and high performance power > surfing…it pretty much dealt a death blow to old style nose riding and > trimming,within the blink of an eye classic longboards were history.I love > old surf films and the classic guys did just fine on the old style big > fins.Were these fins that bad?I see them on retro wall hangers but not > many in the water.Nowadays probably 90% of the longboards are using fin > boxes.There seems to be a huge interest in nose riding these days but you > can’t seem to get old style humpback fins to fit in a box…most of the > boxes are 10 inches so you wouldn’t be able to adjust the fin but it is > just a thought…is anybody trying this?Did we lose something here?Did > these fins give us more down the line stability.I dunno…just curious I > guess. I don’t think those fins were so bad for the old 60’s style boards, but the rails were soft 50/50 & didn’t have much bite. The newer longboards have harder sharper rails in the tail area & thus don’t need as much fin. I put a wide base glass on a 10’-0" & it rides really stable all trimmed out or on the nose, but I think you give up a little speed overall. Just my humble opinion.
Got what you say Ray but a lot of my business is full on retro stuff,heavy glass,cut lap tints and the old 50/50 soft rails.I can do an old style glass on but they would rather have a fin box…that is my problem.Thanks for the input.
I have a question for you guys to consider regarding cutaway fins > pioneered by Nat Young and George Greenough in the mid sixties.This was > the beginning of the short board concept and high performance power > surfing…it pretty much dealt a death blow to old style nose riding and > trimming,within the blink of an eye classic longboards were history.I love > old surf films and the classic guys did just fine on the old style big > fins.Were these fins that bad?I see them on retro wall hangers but not > many in the water.Nowadays probably 90% of the longboards are using fin > boxes.There seems to be a huge interest in nose riding these days but you > can’t seem to get old style humpback fins to fit in a box…most of the > boxes are 10 inches so you wouldn’t be able to adjust the fin but it is > just a thought…is anybody trying this?Did we lose something here?Did > these fins give us more down the line stability.I dunno…just curious I > guess. The SECRET was these ANCHORS were glassed right on the end of the tails and it wasn’t until more modern fin templates and placements that surfing actually took a quantum leap forward, before that it looked good only because they weren’t riding solid wood boards anymore.
I have a question for you guys to consider regarding cutaway fins > pioneered by Nat Young and George Greenough in the mid sixties.This was > the beginning of the short board concept and high performance power > surfing…it pretty much dealt a death blow to old style nose riding and > trimming,within the blink of an eye classic longboards were history.I love > old surf films and the classic guys did just fine on the old style big > fins.Were these fins that bad?I see them on retro wall hangers but not > many in the water.Nowadays probably 90% of the longboards are using fin > boxes.There seems to be a huge interest in nose riding these days but you > can’t seem to get old style humpback fins to fit in a box…most of the > boxes are 10 inches so you wouldn’t be able to adjust the fin but it is > just a thought…is anybody trying this?Did we lose something here?Did > these fins give us more down the line stability.I dunno…just curious I > guess. if cost & time are not factors you could take 2 fin box’s cut the ends on them & piece them together to make a longer box & set it all the way aft. then make or addapt a retro fin. By the way I have an original Gregg Noll glass-on with the camera guy lamed in the center. B condition I would be willing to part with, trade or??
The SECRET was these ANCHORS were glassed right on the end of the tails > and it wasn’t until more modern fin templates and placements that surfing > actually took a quantum leap forward, before that it looked good only > because they weren’t riding solid wood boards anymore. Finally someone said it besides me–thanks JIM, the old,glass them on the tail fins just don’t offer much performance–yea there will always be Tylers and Tudors that can ride that sort of thing (but they could ride a barn door and out surf most people) but for what your talking about Cleanlines : a little re-tooling of the fin templetes and placement and you have your own little niche -I would halfway expect glass-ons on your boards -just another touch of class but as in all things you gotta remember why this templete (function) and where will it work the best (function) ----I’m doing this right now on several of my classic type shapes --going with glass on semi old school single fins --just tweaking a few templetes though—
Thanks guys you pretty much answered my question…C.D.B. sounds like he has figured out the best of the old and the new.My client is a real retro fantic and likes those old humpback fins and was wanting one that would go in a box…guess they aren’t out there.
Thanks guys you pretty much answered my question…C.D.B. sounds like he > has figured out the best of the old and the new.My client is a real retro > fantic and likes those old humpback fins and was wanting one that would go > in a box…guess they aren’t out there. Fins Unlimited has 'em.
Fins Unlimited has 'em. I checked their website and couldn’t find em.Is it possible that the are off the catalog or special order?Can I get a Makaha cockroach inlaid to one?
I checked their website and couldn’t find em.Is it possible that the are > off the catalog or special order?Can I get a Makaha cockroach inlaid to > one? I do the Makaha cockaroach ones on special order.
I do the Makaha cockaroach ones on special order. I want one, but I don’t want any cheap ass florida palmetto bugs or Mexican monsters…it will have to come from Makaha and be captured by Buff or one those guys.The Hawaiian Gods are watching.
I want one, but I don’t want any cheap ass florida palmetto bugs or > Mexican monsters…it will have to come from Makaha and be captured by > Buff or one those guys.The Hawaiian Gods are watching. OK, OK. I will be in Makaha 2nd half of August and will try to bring one back to San Diego – probably have to pour some resin over it or it won’t get through quarantine. Don’t count on Buff helping me though. Maybe better I should mail it to you, eh? Need your address tho. PS The place I usually stay in Makaha was sold to a new owner, so if anybody knows of a cheap rental there for 2 weeks let me know. Seriously.