All long.
Just not longboards.
All gunny.
WOW, Gun a mania, Back too the start of this tread. Got to thinking and ya know almost any thing you come up with has been done before! Own and have surfed it a Hobie Phil Edwards, they said "only Phil could ride 'em", tell you what, in good surf it ruled (Malibu). Made a duplicate about 2 years ago @ 10 ft and made to be a "cruiser, worked good for waist high stuff and you can yet your rips in here and there. Did manage to get into some overhead rippers and OMG that's a lota board!
Dig it.
Aloha
thought I would offer an update on this board now that I’ve had some sessions on it in well overhead to DOH outside lineups (prefer shorter boards on tighter waves).
Fun as hell with a 2+1 set-up.
As a quad, however, it has a whole extra high speed gear, which combined with the considerable continual rocker, is plenty loose as well.
Running True Ames 4.5 fronts and 4.25 rears, fins at 16.5" and 9", set-up feels perfect…
cheers
Lance, that outline is typical of the longboards guys ride here. They may also be pulled in a bit more in back third going into the tail. These days you’ll see guys out on those boards in big days, small days, everyday. Usually older guys, like the over 40 to over 60 crew that can still surf well. I have one made by Greg Griffen, but I haven’t gotten it wet yet. I’ll go from my 10-2 to one of my 8 footers or the 6+ range. The 9 foot range seems to stay at home. I have a 9-4 and the 9-0.
My brother bought me this board, and I can’t wait to ride it. It’s a 10’ surflight, with a soft outer shell and solid inner core.
I do not agree at all with this ‘gun’ terminology pedantry - it seems to me that what is and functions as a gun in one place, is not at all a gun somewhere else.
For instance - 2 places I regularly surf: OBSF and Indonesia. What is a gun at OB (need LOTS and LOTS of paddle or you are VERY SORRY) is a ridiculous tanker in Indonesia where you need lighning quick and tons of manuvearability on the ledge of a very steep reef even when its only DOH.
For me a 6’8" is a shortboard at OB and a gun in Indo and an 8’0" is a gun at OB and a serious libaility in Indo except in very (soft) special occasions like outside corner or maybe kongs…
Arguing about nomencalture and fussing over pedantic disagreements is LAME. Let him call it what he wants to. A gun for Acapulcito or Malibu would be something entirely different yet again.
My question: I either go WAY wider in the nose (paddle) or way narrower (duckdive) - if I was to call a board a ‘gun’ I would be going with the latter since in my experience, being in a critical spot in big waves with a wider nose SUCKS - curious what you have to say… where you surf it, how such a wider nose can be function on a 'gun; for your uses.
yea, Sharkcountry, done right these racy HPLB’s can definitely be a ‘quiver killer’ for many.
Nice outline on that 10’ surflight, like a blown up fun gun,. An 8’0 x 21 racy fun gun is my go to for hollower sizeable days.
‘but there’s no such thing as a fun gun, that’s an oxymoron.’
‘It’s either a gun, dammit, or it’s a hybrid, or a…’
.call them whatever you want
if their fun to ride, that’s kinda the whole point…
The guys in Hawaii learned this at least a decade ago, maybe 20 years now. I think Lance Ho’okano was one of the first guys I saw riding long short boards. They started about 8 feet, then they ended up at 9 feet to make them fit in the rules for longboard contests. Lance was charging Sunset in contests on the early 90’s. It was all about paddling faster and getting more waves than anyone else out. Lots of hogs followed and now those guys are riding SUPs. There was a time in the 90’s when the really old guys (60 years old kine) started riding BK guns instead of their normal longboards on the larger days in town.
These days the guns are over 10’ and 4" thick. The guys riding them are chasing giants and doing things that I think are out of control. Makes more sense to tow in and rip the waves than barely make it paddling. I don’t know why things are so off with guys trying to paddle into 40’, 50’, 60’ faces, then only being able to make it down and go straight.
I never had a gun because I never attempted surfing if I knew it was that big. My gunniest board was only 7-6, more than good enough for 3xOH. Sometimes you go out and it gets big faster than you can tell. A 2xOH day can double before you know it, and you have to catch a wave to get in. I’ve been lucky to always make it home with board although the boards have not always been as lucky as me.
