Looking for glasser in the LA south bay

General Discussion
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anyone here in the PV-El Segundo zone or know someone that is that does glass work?

I have a board I’m finishing and I’m thinking about shopping it out to someone.

…I would love to watch someone do the work, if it’s possible.

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aquatech…i think listed in marina del ray…

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ask proboxlarry he’s in that area

what king of glas job are you looking for?

Im in HB I need to make extra money for house payment

serious

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I just saw that thread with your apprentice, Adam…inspirational.

here’s my current project:

http://www.grainsurf.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=610

without the deck…

decided to keep it wood and keep it traditional so I bought a couple of ply

big keel fins to go with it from ET Surf…classic fish setup…still questioning

whether I want to go with a quad given the size of the board and the rider,

but, hey, could be a great premise for the next board. ; )

two goals:

  1. glass on the fins and a leash loop

  2. put a light (a dude suggested 2oz) cloth on the board

the deck and hull are each 1/4" with support beneath, but I’m a big mofo

and a little glass couldn’t hurt…just don’t want to weigh it down to heavily

I actually have a big thing of MAS and fast cure…could buy the cloth and

compensate for your time.

would LOVE to watch how it’s done…maybe pick your brain on design questions.

I’ve never glassed before and am getting anxious to wrap up this board so

I figured it might be a worthwhile expense to make sure the board finishes

on a high note.

thanks for responding.

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ps. I’m in hermosa…HB is a hop, skip and jump down the 405 for me…maybe hit bolsa chica?!

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what is MAS?,epoxy? or poly?

I can do glass on fins

heres one

I would rather do poly I polishes better

when will the board be done?

any more pics?

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MAS is epoxy.

I’m not emotionally attached to either.

I’m interested in ways to avoid glass, epoxy with deck patches and as needed for

fins seemed like the most accessible thing for me doing a garage job.

all the pictures available are at the link above.

my deck panel is drying now.

tomorrow I’ll trim it and possibly start the final bending to get it to conform to

the deck rocker and flush with the rails.

I’m using 3M 5200 for to glue it up, this may take a few days to set up.

I imagine that after final sanding the soonest the board will be ready to go would

be early next week.

I’ll try to get you a pic of the keel fins too.

I made another thread about fin placement that has a pic of the tail dimensions.

overall length is 7’8".

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you will need to do a sanding sealer

yes?

I think the whole board should be wraped in glass and resin

how fast does that MAS epoxy take to cure?

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after reviewing the web site

I believe you would want this board wraped comletly in glass (just 4oz top and bottom) and I would use poly resin and do a polish on it

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yeah, the redwood on the deck is pretty soft…I’m not adverse to cloth…but something light, as you’ve suggested.

I’m about to glue the deck on tonite…I have to figure out what I’m going to do about the vent plug.

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well

get er done

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set up the deck last night.

heated and humidified the room this time… using 3M quick set 5200.

I set up a test joint so I could monitor the state of the epoxy since all the work is

inside the board now and I have no access to the guts.

the epoxy on the test pieces is nearly completely cured.

last time I used regular 5200 and did it in an open area during some pretty cool/dry

weather and it took a week to harden.

I’ll probably finish with hand tools and sanding by sunday at the latest.

do I need to be working on getting my own mats or are you stocked?

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I am sorry that i am not in your area, but would like to forward a few thoughts. I would recommend at least 4 oz. glass. The spacer of your ribs may create some deck/ bottom flex with a lighter glass. Use a slow hardener with epoxy. A fast hardener can cause an amine blush, which can cause delam of the top coat. I learned these by building woodstrip boats, regretfully I had to do it the hard way.

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Sorry, but I didn’t finish. do not use a sanding sealer, better to put a thin coat of epoxy on the wood and then sand it smooth. Sanding sealer can weaken the bond of the epoxy to the wood and some sanding sealers use linseed oil, which can contaminate the epoxy and cause it not to stick. I also think of 3M 5200 as a sealer, not as a glue. I tend to use a wood glue and cover it with a coat of epoxy to keep condensate from breaking it down.

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what do you meen by “mats”?

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materials.

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tocobaga,

if I glass this thing with poly instead of epoxy, do I brush on a thin coat of resin before glassing also?

meaning, does the recommendation hold true no matter what kind of resin I’m using…brush on a thin layer to help seal the deal first?

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btw…cleaning it up as we speak.

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I would recommend it. When dealing with redwood or cedar, some portions of the grain suck up a large amount of material. The reason to precoat is so that you do not end up with dry spots in your glass. The biggest problem with glassing wood is that if you coat the board too heavily the glass will float and not actually be adhered to the wood. If you end up doing it yourself, use a squeegee to remove the excess material.