It is becoming obvious that some people dont like FP? Why I ask? 1/Is it because FP are a figment of my imagination and Im just inventing this design and giving away information that isnt acctually there at my web page? 2/There are absolutely no new designs that will ever have performance advantages… 3/Could there be some worried shapers beliving they are superceeded by a modern advanced flow form and this is their only recourse but to ridicule it hoping it might go away? “Man that Lamorgini is trash wont ever go fast looking like that.” Sounds a bit reactive on the part of the “ANTI FP CLIQUE” We are only doing what we love and sharing info is part of it… What you folks are not getting, is that we are being taken seriously by quite a many individualls some are longboarders from this site…why do you think I hang around? … I stoked it… http://www.geocities.com/wunderboyi/ninetysixpercent.html
i hate penguins now!! See what you are doing?i use to think they were harmless little animals now.I hate PENGUINS!!!
I’m in sales too. It’s provable that absolutely hammering a product at people, literally ramming it down their throats, no matter how stupid or inferior the product, will yield interest from roughly the most gullible 5% of the audience, ANY audience. But that’s not news to you. People here don’t hate your product any more than they hate YOU, a person who injects his stupid product into every unrelated conversation. Or if you can’t find a conversation to inject YOUR product into, you’ll start one… like this one. The reason you hang around here is that, unlike EVERY other surf forum on the internet, the warped host of this forum hasn’t gotten rid of you. He feels he has a “brotherhood” with you unrelated to surf or surfboards.
Victor Benno Meyer-Rochow and Jozsef Gal, scientist at the International University of Bremen have studied the penguin’s capability of expelling its feces with exteme force. The birds can propel their feces up to 40 centimeters away from their nest. The researchers estimate that the birds generate pressures of up to 60 kilopascals- more than half normal atmospheric pressure and four times the peak squeeze typically excerted by humans. (Polar Research vol. 27 pp. 56). Some of it lands in Swaylocks. Rob Olliges
Hmmmmm forums, There are over 340,000 surf related forums, I am as happy as a pig in $#|+ …it should take me about 34 years to get banned at every one ! “ANTI FP CLIQUE” you guys do know this is the WORLD WIDE WEB your playing with. Its quite vast you know…there are 400mill regular net users not including CHINA which is exceeding 200mill…there are over 20mill surferWW chewing through their boards at a rate of one every 18 mths for the average surfers career of 5 years. So that means a regular Joe surfer will have about 3-4 boards in his life…(20mill * 4)*5=100mill boards… Now lets look at prices for surfboard…US$400 for custom shortboard with fins. Lifespan 18-24mths over the span of Joe surfers career he spent over US$1600 on surfing equipment not including wax legropes sunscreen stickers magazines clothes…Are you getting the picture Joe Surfer you are already being predated upon by unscrupulous Marketing magnates… Why do boards Last for 18mths? Ill leave that to the Panel… Share the wealth make boards last longer… Regards T.E. http://www.geocities.com/wunderboyi/ninetysixpercent.html
Facinating Rob you do get into the net my boy! But I must wonder about your content though… It has been a passing thought of mine, Penguins excrement statistics but never enough to go out and find it? Though you are quite entitled to look at what ever you please…(any Pics) Dont send em! http://www.geocities.com/wunderboyi/ninetysixpercent.html
Dear Mr. Ferret, Bad form there you little weasel. Swaylock has done us all an invaluable favor out of pure stoke in creating and maintaining this site. To intimate that he sides with T.Emerton and his FP fantasy is pure delusion! We/YOU owe Swaylock a great debt for a forum like this. The unfortunate thing is the drivel that permeates this site since its popularity has grown of late. But, Swaylock is not to blame nor is he a censor. And I admire him for that. If he had major sponsors for the site, he might be forced to censor derogatory remarks aimed at them. That would put Swaylocks in the bland PC world of those who equate “surfing” with sitting in front of the tube with a remote. As for the FP. All I can think is that if it is truely the “second coming” that E.T. thinks, why hasn’t he been handing them out to all the hot shots on the tour for free, getting their blessing and becoming the new design Kahuna? But, if you can’t even give them away…
TE, I’m sure you’re design is credible, possibly ahead of it’s time. TIME is the operative word. When George G. Shaped Velo and his “fish fin”. you didn’t see him ramming it down everyone’s throat. He did it for him and no one else. If in fact he did it for glory or fame it never would have reached the proportions it did. If you feel you’re design is valid, just put a few out there and wait for the feedback. It may take some time, but us surfers are patient and will answer in due time. Aloha, TW
TE, How many FP’s are in existence? Who actually rides them? Who was trying to ride the one in the pictures on your site? As asked before when there WAS abit of interest in your uh…idea. Show us the bird! Post up some pics of people riding them. Interview with someone who has tried one??? Concept is great but in actuality we want to see some penguin rodeo! Post up a vid of a ride. You can Blah Blah Blah all you want but quit wasting your breath and use some of that energy to put up or shut up! I don’t think anyone is going to spend the amount of time to shape a penguin as it would take from observing your drawings. Who in their right mind would want that glassing nightmare? You had an audience and you have blown it! No ticket No …wait that was in Frosty…Ambrose??? you got any time to carve out a Penguin??? Weak Weak WEAK! Anyone that reads my posts know I am helpful to a fault and only ask for real info when I have a problem. I am trying to help you. Where is the Penguin Poop? Krokus
Ask any Pro yourself… My opinion is from the experience from talking to some pros and asking them to be test riders is that they are not allowed to touch it fear of jepodising their careers. The old “what if it works !!” syndrome …anyways this is not the PROS board its everybodys board…It would not look good for the Large Manufacturers counting on boards breaking and being very very cheap to build! Our boards last longer and perform to a higher level of satisfaction for their owners… Higher Level of Performance. T.E. http://www.geocities.com/wunderboyi/ninetysixpercent.html
Can we purchase a penguin and maybe sacrifice it for surf at a swaylock gathering???Please!
You did the Tell, now do the Show. Make 3 penguins and let 3 talented riders spend a season at 3 top spots, say Rincon, Pipeline, and Bells. Shoot pictures and video and build a credible website (not the amateur thing you’ve got now). If the idea is valid, people will notice and seek more info and sales. By any objective standard, you’re doing a poor job of promoting your idea if no one is buying or trying. And really, PR and marketing is not rocket science. Ask yourself–why are you failing, and realistically, what can you do differently in order to succeed? You’ve gotten direct feedback from so many people and you haven’t really listened to any of them.
I support you all the way TE. Your design will definately work. I know because I’ve been shaping a very similar design since the early 80’s. They smoke on fast point waves. I’ve been preaching narrow noses on twinnies for over twenty years. You’ve taken it to the extreme with the hips and I’d love to try one. The tight fin span on a wide tail is also an element I used and swear by. Unforunately mine are all out of commision now because of old fashioned traditional materials like polyesters and epoxies. Now I just buy boards because I’d rather spend free moments skating or riding waves. If you want to see one of my favorite material innovators, check out www.surflight.com for boards that flex like a snowboard. Love Delbert de Von Pumpernickel
I didn’t call anybody names, and I don’t deserve this treatment from you. Mike Paler is responsible and liable for the content of the forum he hosts. Read any court case on the subject, ie Napster. No, ET has posted nothing offensive. He has however harassed posters here and generally made an ass of himself, just like now. Censorship by definition is something only governments can do, as censorship uses laws, so there’s no “censorship” issue here. If as you say, Mike Paler is trying not to “censor” posters such as ET then why has he chosen to delete posts and confiscate the user names of people objecting to ET’s harassment? Hmmmmmmm? Sorry, you’re wrong.
Hey everyone’s bagging on your marketing. Here’s how it works. I currently hold patents on other types of sports equipment that have Medalled in Olympics and have set world records that still hold today. I have some of the highest paid professional athletes in the world on my products, but whenever I come up with something greatly supperior, they won’t even try it because they’re afraid they’ll be laughed at or afraid it will take their performance down a notch. Just keep plugging away and get smart tech geek nerds to surf your designs. In a few years, a few naturally talented athletes may be begging you for sponsorship. And if that happens, all the closed minded surfers in the world will be saying, “Oh yeah, I was on board since the beginning.” I feel like I live in the Twilight Zone, because that scenario has repeated over and over in my life. Just suck up energy from everyone hating your ideas…kinda of like Monsters Inc. You should be full of energy from some of the hate, fear, and predjudice on this website. Love D. Pumpernickel
Setting up a nice website is no bad idea. If you spent only have of the time spamming the board with learning html you would have a running bussiness already. Do you sell the board or just talk about it? People have asked if they can purchase one and there seems to be no answer from your side… how many of these do exist? Who is shapeing them? Are you shapeing them? Maybe you should write an FP Linux distro and ride the wave of the new economy instead of getting involved with the dusty surfboard bussiness [wink]
Hey thats the way guys, Interesting opinions and questions and about the brotherhood well that whent over my head woosh! Web site - it took me 30 mins including uploading! Im not selling boards On this forum, they are too expensive anyway, US$20per inch… Whos says Im marketing anything anyway, am just sharing info…I know exactly what I lack and thats the fun, I just think well If I had an open chequebook you guys wouldnt be finding out about FP from small corners of the web…But this is Fun to watch all the assumptions and interplay of Egos and vested interests…I will be taken seriously soon enough… Jim DUNLOP has built a FP hes commented he was mildly surprised riding his 6’1" in 2" slop…His constructive comments were he couldnt get a rounhouse cutty with out feeling like he was doing it in sections, this is usally because of foot positioning. Once you find the sweet spot you littertaly surf with your head, by weight shifting…Most guys try to use too much effort to turn FP instead of letting the lines in the board do the work… http://www.geocities.com/wunderboyi/ninetysixpercent.html
Its a lost cause trying to market your fat penquin on swaylocks