I have always been curious about this. Let’s say you have a board in front of you and you do not know any of the dimensions. How do you measure the thickness of the board, or say the tail width. For the tail, I heard that you measure 12" from the tip of the tail, as well as for nose width. How would you measure true length if you have a failry flipped nose?
I have always been curious about this. Let’s say you have a board in front > of you and you do not know any of the dimensions. How do you measure the > thickness of the board, or say the tail width. For the tail, I heard that > you measure 12" from the tip of the tail, as well as for nose width. > How would you measure true length if you have a failry flipped nose? Alex you have it right 12" marks for nose and tail. Thickness you need to make some Calibers to measure it. The other you didn’t ask is wide point and where it is placed… wide point changes based on design… LB and real guns wide point is forward and short board Ripsticks wide point is behind center. Hope that helps…
I have always been curious about this. Let’s say you have a board in front > of you and you do not know any of the dimensions. How do you measure the > thickness of the board, or say the tail width. For the tail, I heard that > you measure 12" from the tip of the tail, as well as for nose width. > How would you measure true length if you have a failry flipped nose? Forgot measure the bottom that gives you a true length… Now i know some out would disagree but to each his own…
You got the nose and tail width measurements right. It takes calipers to make thickness measurements correctly. But you could take a thin plywood board with say a 4" slot in it, and slip it over the board. Measure the gap height and subrtact the measurement from the plywood slot height. Measure rocker by balancing the board on its center, on a flat surface. Measure up to nose and tail. There are three ways to measure length. Measuring around the rocker is the wrong way, but some people do it. The quick way is to measure from tail to nose tip, across the deck, pretty accurate. The pure way would be to balance the board like with the rocker measurement. Drop vertical marks to the flat surface below the nose and tail tips. Then measure between marks.
…Traditional,longboards are measured from the deck,shortboards are mesured from the bottom.Herb
…Traditional,longboards are measured from the deck,shortboards are > mesured from the bottom.Herb …That’s the length measurements.Herb
You got the nose and tail width measurements right. It takes calipers to > make thickness measurements correctly. But you could take a thin plywood > board with say a 4" slot in it, and slip it over the board. Measure > the gap height and subrtact the measurement from the plywood slot height.>>> Measure rocker by balancing the board on its center, on a flat surface. > Measure up to nose and tail.>>> There are three ways to measure length. Measuring around the rocker is the > wrong way, but some people do it. The quick way is to measure from tail to > nose tip, across the deck, pretty accurate. The pure way would be to > balance the board like with the rocker measurement. Drop vertical marks to > the flat surface below the nose and tail tips. Then measure between marks. Measuring the length along the bottom is the most practical way from a shaper’s point of view, because when you make a full length template, you lay it on the bottom to draw it out. Most rockers add 1/2" to maybe 3/4" in length. So, my template for a 7’0" board is actually 7’1/2" long. Depends on whether or not you are measuring the length for work or play, I guess.
Measuring the length along the bottom is the most practical way from a > shaper’s point of view, because when you make a full length template, you > lay it on the bottom to draw it out. Most rockers add 1/2" to maybe > 3/4" in length. So, my template for a 7’0" board is actually > 7’1/2" long. Depends on whether or not you are measuring the length > for work or play, I guess. …I agree with you on the bottom measuring thing,it’s the way to go.Herb
I assume “play” is meant as a jab. You just described how to fit an outline template, by adding length for laying over the rocker. We agree on how to do that. The intended purpose of surfboards by their users is “play”. Board users want to know how long a board is by their criteria, not by the criteria imposed by the shaper’s geometry. A 10’ board is 10’ long, not 9’11" because the shaper’s templates have to be 10’ long. They don’t.
…I agree with you on the bottom measuring thing,it’s the way to > go.Herb In all my years i have only seen one shaper measure the deck. the bottom is the place it all starts and ends…
I assume “play” is meant as a jab. You just described how to fit > an outline template, by adding length for laying over the rocker. We agree > on how to do that.>>> The intended purpose of surfboards by their users is “play”. > Board users want to know how long a board is by their criteria, not by > the criteria imposed by the shaper’s geometry.>>> A 10’ board is 10’ long, not 9’11" because the shaper’s templates > have to be 10’ long. They don’t. You assumed incorrectly. Please don’t turn this into WWIII. If a surfer wishes to measure a board in some detail, it most likely would be to duplicate it, or to be able to communicate to a shaper what he wants. In that case, there is not point in measuring the length in any other manner than along the bottom.
“not by the criteria imposed by the shaper’s geometry”. The bottom is the surface area that is shaped. The deck is blended or foiled into the rail line. Hence the shaper is the imposer the man behind the design. 99% of the people out there wouldn’t know any different. I would like to know who set’s the “Criteria” for surfboards?? The user or the designer??? Who do we listen to the shaper or the surfer?? I feel a new post coming on…>>> I assume “play” is meant as a jab. You just described how to fit > an outline template, by adding length for laying over the rocker. We agree > on how to do that.>>> The intended purpose of surfboards by their users is “play”. > Board users want to know how long a board is by their criteria, not by > the criteria imposed by the shaper’s geometry.>>> A 10’ board is 10’ long, not 9’11" because the shaper’s templates > have to be 10’ long. They don’t.
In all my years i have only seen one shaper measure the deck. the bottom > is the place it all starts and ends… …Some of the old timers ,especially use profiling machines,measure from the deck still eg. Rich Harbour.Herb
For thickness in lieu of a calipers, just put the board on a couple of sawhorses, place a straight board across the deck, hold one to the bottom, then measure the distance between them. It’ll get the reading of the thickest part. Dewey
I assume “play” is meant as a jab. You just described how to fit > an outline template, by adding length for laying over the rocker. We agree > on how to do that.>>> The intended purpose of surfboards by their users is “play”. > Board users want to know how long a board is by their criteria, not by > the criteria imposed by the shaper’s geometry.>>> A 10’ board is 10’ long, not 9’11" because the shaper’s templates > have to be 10’ long. They don’t. A 10’ board is 10’??? “Board users criteria”?? What in the hell is that? Are you some kind of a Repub? Most surfers don
t have a clue about their cues dimensions, but they sure know whether theyre having fun or not! A boards dimensions are whatever the shaper says they are!!! Maybe surfboards should be measured like wave height instead? For once, try shaping by feel, not numbers. Close your eyes and learn to see with your hands. Throw away all that damned “criteria”, those tape measures and templates. Try having some unquantified FUN!!!
“not by the criteria imposed by the shaper’s geometry”.>>> The bottom is the surface area that is shaped. The deck is blended or > foiled into the rail line. Hence the shaper is the imposer the man behind > the design. 99% of the people out there wouldn’t know any different.>>> I would like to know who set’s the “Criteria” for surfboards?? > The user or the designer??? Who do we listen to the shaper or the surfer?? > I feel a new post coming on… I once shaped a couple of identical boards…one was 9’8" and the other was 9’4’‘.Somehow when I went to sign em I got the numbers reversed.I sold the 9’8’'(which was marked 9’4") to a Bro. he liked the board a lot but said that he wished he had gotten the 9’8".It doesn’t have anything to do with this string but it does kinda make you think about some of these numbers that shapers put on boards.Some these numbers are down to 1/10 of an inch.The friggin heat of the sun will expand a board more than that.Keep it simple…R.B.
…I want a toke of what you’re smoking.Herb
I just discovered that my car is actually 27’ when I measured “over the top”. Boy did I get a deal! Hmmm… wonder why they didn’t charge me for those extra 11 feet? I see what you mean, about not making this into WW3. It’s no big deal. The people who are wrong simply need to admit it.
…I want a toke of what you’re smoking.Herb HUH? Don`t you remember selling it to me???