One of these moons I’ll get some digital capacity… Sorry to say won’t be any moon soon, but I would love to share.
The Simmons boards (including the mini-Simmons versions) and Stubbies / Hulls like yours and Liddles and other “Hulls” out there correlate design characteristics. Would you care to elaborate on your observations and specs? I’d like hear other shapers perspecitves on why even though the Simmons style boards and the Stubbies / Hulls both share a hulled nose section, the Stubbies / Hulls seem to have more rounded tails than large square tails, and also utilize a single high aspect fin moved up considerably more than the average single fin, instead of two low aspect fins spread out to the rails and back like on the simmons twin keels.
Anyone (Dennis) care to elaborate?
They are both designs that obviously work well for the type of surfing the designers had in mind, but couldn’t they both be combined in such a way as to meet both styles and objectives?
How might that be achieved?
It would be neat to build one that turns out to be a great all-around every day rider (or if you make one Dennis… I suppose it would be a great all-around “Ryder”…hahahah…okay, that was pretty lame…).
I’m wondering if Bill’s Twin 2" off center fin setup might help to achieve this, or even something new???
Hi Kawika,
My history with these boards comes from Greenough not Simmons so that’s why my boards are the way they are. I’m younger than the guys that were around Simmons. The Greenough stuff was good enough for me and really never looked beyond that with these boards until recently… the last couple years.
I’d have to say the wide tailed Simmons needs fins on the rails. If you banked a board like that over on it’s rail with only a single center fin most of the fin or all of the fin would come out of the water. Unless you were way out in the flat with your rail fully engaged the board would not hold its line.
The modern Hulls have narrower tails and even with that it can be tricky to hold a line… they take some understanding to get comfortable with.
Is it possible to combine the two? I’d say yes.
This board has been working for me.
D.R.
That is a really cool board.
Very cool indeed! I would love to ride it! I’ll let ya try out the Thrailkill Destroyer Twin…
Hi, Dennis. that’s a great-looking board… bet it’s loads of fun. there’s a lot of overlap between the devoted TK Fish riders and the devoted single-fin hull riders, isn’t there? But yet there are those characteristics in the one, that you don’t find in the other… i don’t think you will ever find the perfect middle ground on them.
Slds,
Jason