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[huie]

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Coque Michael Peterson status Reged: 08/18/04 Posts: 3146 Loc: Vigo, Galiza, Europe	** Von Sol thread deleted **       #1949071 - 12/27/10 03:20 PM Edit   Reply   Quote   Quick Reply
Weeeeeeeeee, seems like there are "bros" also inside Surfermag. well, i was answering to Dudebro: Quote: Can agree that shapers need to make a living and that popouts may be making it tough but lets not put the blame solely on them. There are shops trying to sell boards for some markup to make it worth their while stocking boards and having the extra square footage/employees to cover this. Then you have the shaper who is undercutting the shop by giving out bro deals to anyone who comes order from him direct. Great for the consumer and shaper but bad for the surf shop owner. Then on top of that many shapers do not treat their business like a business and keep to a production schedule. Would rather go surfing or put other boards in front of boards already scheduled to be made. End result is they cannot even deliver a set number of boards that shops may need because of this. Now it is not always the shapers fault that the boards are not getting made on time. Sometimes the glassers are behind and mostly for the same reason. Surfs up so I’m not coming in. Not only that but I’m not working late to make up for lost production. Also, they put other glassing jobs in front of ones already scheduled. So with all the egos, excuses, and low profits what is the shop owner supposed to do. Beg the shapers to get them some boards that they can sell. Nope. This is were the pop-outs come in because they can have that board anytime their stock runs low and they get better profit margins. Seems to me somebody dropped the ball and it was not the pop-out manufacturers. I have no problems with pop-outs because they fill a spot that was not completely being serviced by the existing surfboard industry. That being said I do not own nor have I owned one and feel that the hand shaped boards I have are far superior to the pop-outs. That is why I feel the custom board market is never going away. There a shapers who do treat there business like a real business and are making it. The ones who are having problems need to look around them and see what they can do to make their situation better. Deliver boards on time or be honest as to why it is not done, don’t have an ego towards prospective or current customers, eliminate bro deals, and cut expenses as much as possible. Many people in other industries have lived through what the surfboard industry is going through and they have found a way to get by. Once again I can agree that pop-outs hurt the shapers bottom line but they are not going away and it is time to make a change in the standard way shapers operate their business. Certainly hope they do find a way to adapt and I will keep supporting the custom shaped surfboard industry. If they have a pop-out model or not. What does all this have to do with the double standards on this forum where some are Evil for producing popouts and others should get the free pass because they’re “cool” or “bros”??? You either didn’t read the thread before posting or you aren’t getting the point. I said several times that i don’t like popouts and i’d never ride one, but that i don’t have a problem with people riding one. I said it early in this thread. Plus, i don’t, by any means, agreed with you on the spot popouts fill. If there’re unprofessional shapers their spot will be filled with more professional shapers, there’re tons of them and good ones. If there weren’t popouts surfboards would have the price they should have and both the shop and the shaper (and the glass shop) would be doing the money they should. Coque. www.worldprosurfers.com Chano Ailans quiver:5’9 Basura Buceador,5’11 Vato Flyer,6’3 Pinche Photon Post Extras:
Coque Michael Peterson status Reged: 08/18/04 Posts: 3146 Loc: Vigo, Galiza, Europe	** Re: Von Sol thread deleted ** [Re: Coque]       #1949073 - 12/27/10 03:24 PM Edit   Reply   Quote   Quick Reply
This one is for Lennie: Quote: WPS screwed Julian not the ASP, but you won’t get the truth from your pro buddies over there… If WPS pros ride pop outs then they support pop outs which screws over the locals shapers… hype-o-crite cockue Where did you take that this was an WPS decision, i don’t know, maybe you want to post your insight… because i think your WRONG. Plus, i said many times early on this thread that i don’t have a problem with people riding or supporting popouts, it’s a personal decision, i have a problem with double standards, with people making the Evil out of some popout producers and then giving a free pass to Von SOl because “Sean is cool”. Again, read before you post. Coque. www.worldprosurfers.com Chano Ailans quiver:5’9 Basura Buceador,5’11 Vato Flyer,6’3 Pinche Photon Post Extras:
SurfingLamb Tom Curren status Reged: 06/29/04 Posts: 10171	** Re: Von Sol thread deleted ** [Re: Retropete]       #1949082 - 12/27/10 03:32 PM Edit   Reply   Quote   Quick Reply
Quote: The telling thing is that the thread was not locked but entirely deleted. What a joke! Not really telling. Bassy used to lock threads. The new admins just sweep it all away. I’m willing to bet it was done more because of the ASP references than anything else. http://bryansbarrelhunter.blogspot.com/ Post Extras:
mar123 Grom Reged: 06/06/09 Posts: 8	** Re: Von Sol thread deleted ** [Re: Coque]       #1949083 - 12/27/10 03:35 PM Edit   Reply   Quote   Quick Reply
or even single posts - if defamation/libel was the concern... it was a good debate Post Extras:
Coque Michael Peterson status Reged: 08/18/04 Posts: 3146 Loc: Vigo, Galiza, Europe	** Re: Von Sol thread deleted ** [Re: SurfingLamb]       #1949086 - 12/27/10 03:38 PM Edit   Reply   Quote   Quick Reply
Quote: Quote: The telling thing is that the thread was not locked but entirely deleted. What a joke! Not really telling. Bassy used to lock threads. The new admins just sweep it all away. I’m willing to bet it was done more because of the ASP references than anything else. You’re kidding, right??? The ASP references here are lighter than on any other given thread. BTW, i have the entire thread and all my PM saved (screen capture in JPEG) because i saw this coming… This censorship may be the last strow and i think i’ll stop posting on the entire Surfermag forum. I’m not a kid, i don’t like anyone regulating me like that just because i’m touching one of his bros. After all, there’s not much life let in Surfermag.com with the numbers they’re doing… Coque. www.worldprosurfers.com Chano Ailans quiver:5’9 Basura Buceador,5’11 Vato Flyer,6’3 Pinche Photon Post Extras:
GWS Duke status Reged: 01/11/02 Posts: 25873 Loc: Oxtura	** Re: Von Sol thread deleted ** [Re: Coque]       #1949090 - 12/27/10 03:42 PM Edit   Reply   Quote   Quick Reply
And to think I never even clicked on that thread. I hate it when I miss a good train wreck. Someone should start a train wreck notification service. Subscribers would get a PM notifying them of any epic train wrecks they may be missing... by the way, I was over on the Tom Wegener thread and I must say, the brakes felt a little spongy to me. How do I offend thee? Let us count the ways… Post Extras:
SurfingLamb Tom Curren status Reged: 06/29/04 Posts: 10171	** Re: Von Sol thread deleted ** [Re: GWS]       #1949092 - 12/27/10 03:42 PM Edit   Reply   Quote   Quick Reply
Quote: And to think I never even clicked on that thread. I hate it when I miss a good train wreck. Someone should start a train wreck notification service. Subscribers would get a PM notifying them of any epic train wrecks they may be missing... Hah. And you think your inbox is full now… http://bryansbarrelhunter.blogspot.com/ Post Extras:
GWS Duke status Reged: 01/11/02 Posts: 25873 Loc: Oxtura	** Re: Von Sol thread deleted ** [Re: Retropete]       #1949101 - 12/27/10 03:58 PM Edit   Reply   Quote   Quick Reply
Quote: Never mind. How about re-posting that footage of yourself in your avatar. Was quite a while back and can't remember the dims of the board you were riding. Do recall you getting stick from some kooks about it though. Can we NOT make the next train wreck about me? I don’t want to participate, I want to spectate! I hear there’s a shortage of pine shelving… How do I offend thee? Let us count the ways… Post Extras:
Coque Michael Peterson status Reged: 08/18/04 Posts: 3146 Loc: Vigo, Galiza, Europe	** Re: Von Sol thread deleted ** [Re: FishFace]       #1949108 - 12/27/10 04:17 PM Edit   Reply   Quote   Quick Reply
Well, it was confirmed. i just received an email from one of the Admins: Sean Mattison asked for the entire thread being deleted and the Admin did it. Got to love how well the bro thing works here. It’s been nice, maybe i’ll post sometimes, i don’t know, but not in the near future, this was the last strow of Surfermag censorship, so by now i’m done with this place. Dear Sean Mattison, the Admin told you to sign up and replying me yourself but you refused to, so i just sent you an email so you have a direct link to me. Good waves and all the best for you all in this comming year. Coque. www.worldprosurfers.com Chano Ailans quiver:5’9 Basura Buceador,5’11 Vato Flyer,6’3 Pinche Photon Post Extras:
GWS Duke status Reged: 01/11/02 Posts: 25873 Loc: Oxtura	** Re: Von Sol thread deleted ** [Re: Coque]       #1949110 - 12/27/10 04:20 PM Edit   Reply   Quote   Quick Reply
Wait, didn't you say you had the whole thread saved? Post it up. How do I offend thee? Let us count the ways… Post Extras:
redrider Legend (inyourownmind) Reged: 07/08/10 Posts: 182 Loc: CA (South OC)	** Re: Von Sol thread deleted ** [Re: Coque]       #1949112 - 12/27/10 04:25 PM Edit   Reply   Quote   Quick Reply
And these are the Days of Our Lives.... Edited by redrider (12/27/10 04:26 PM) Post Extras:
	** Re: Von Sol thread deleted ** [Re: Coque]       #1949138 - 12/27/10 05:01 PM Edit   Reply   Quote   Quick Reply

   

[huie]

well come on coque air it all out here      i do agree with you by the way

but i cant help saying you were geting a bit of your own back  haaaaaaa’‘’

 

**cheers huie
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[everysurfer]

Huie,

This is swaylocks, not surfer magazine bulletin board.  Oops.

[huie]

well belive me this is relavent on here.       i would like to here from coque?

 

 to attempt to moderate this thread would be acting like that other mob

 

  cheers huie

[jimthegenius]

Good on yah Huie, I had re-registered with Surfermag,com and had thought of a clever comment to add to the  F-fest, but seeing it just swept away was much better…

I have know Sean since before he could drive and darn if he isn’t driven, very self motivated, had it not been for Sean picking Hynson up by his boot straps, Mike would have never made the move on his own.

The proof will be in the pudding, molded auto paint clone boards or American hand crafted or Aussie hand crafted, French hand crafted.

Your point that there are far too many people building boards by the seat of their pants with no real business model to follow, I fell into this class at one time, surf at every chance, put the guy with the money in his hand next, he’ll keep the door open for a few more days.

But at one time or another, it is  publish or perish, shit or get off the pot, I had to realize I only had so many viable years left to get it straight and molded boards weren’t going to be the answer. I had a near come to blows with Dobson over this, he wanted 2 models by BoardWorks, but they want 150 boards guaranteed per model, per size,  that comes out to 300 a year as pop outs, splitting a 50 buck royalty with Dale. The numbers just did not work at all for me, I’m not a model maker, almost all of my boards are customs.

But if a label can make it with their product being done off shore, so be it, we ( collectively ) CANNOT build containers of boards for a guaranteed delivery date in America the way I see it.

I am all over the board here, but this is just my small insight

 

This is a custom I just finished for Sean

[huie]

yea well j p i dont have a beef in the original sqawk either way

but this quote from coque   has me rolling on the floor with laughter

 

BTW, i have the entire thread and all my PM saved (screen capture in JPEG) because i saw this coming…

This
censorship may be the last strow and i think i’ll stop posting on the
entire Surfermag forum. I’m not a kid, i don’t like anyone regulating me
like that just because i’m touching one of his bros.

After all, there’s not much life let in Surfermag.com with the numbers they’re doing…

ahhhhhhhhhh’’  frekin   hull arious

 

jim your usual perfection

**cheers huie
**

[McDing]

It's "straw" Bro not "strow".  You're worked up worse than a women.

[McDing]

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[surfiber]

@$1

It’s “straw” Bro not “strow”

 

[quote="$1"] ahhhhhhhhhh''  frekin   hull arious [/quote]

 

heya mcDing, how about hurl-arious, does that count? hehe

cheers,

[huie]

@$1

@$1

It’s “straw” Bro not “strow”

 

[quote="$1"] ahhhhhhhhhh''  frekin   hull arious [/quote]

 

heya mcDing, how about hurl-arious, does that count? hehe

cheers,

 

well you realy need to understand things before you jump in         there is a meaning for what i have said

but this is not about me      its about that  wonder boy coque    the hippocrite

now go back in your cave and have a rest

[huie]

@$1

It’s “straw” Bro not “strow”.  You’re worked up worse than a women.

get your facts straight

[surfiber]

[quote="$1"] now go back in your cave and have a rest [/quote]

and oh, belated merry christmas to you too hehe

cheers,

 

[McDing]

Which fact?

[huie]

well if you were to read the quotes you would relise its about a certain person

with very dble standards

its not about me     get it?

if you have something  on this subject lets here it.

 

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jesus mc ding you and i are a sarcastic pair haaaaa’’

 

** cheers huie
**

[McDing]

Indeed!  We are!  See Ya in the funny papers.

[huie]

i see the b b mob rather silent on this over here but dont mind having a good tug at it over there

more two faces   me thinks

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 well COQUE you have been well exposed  thank you for that  haaaa’’

 

 

           cheers huie

[di99er]

hey huei, did I mention to you the other day that Im saving for a compressor

[di99er]

hey huei, lost your phone number and email, hope everything good mate and hopefully will have those glassing stands made soon