My Modern Twin Shortboards

Up for disscusion is my Modern Twin Shortboard design

This one is 6’ x 19 1/2" x 2 1/2" and going to be reviewed soon on Surfermag.com

This one is 6’2" x 19 3/4" x 2 9/16"

This one is 5’8" x 19" x 2 1/4"

I have made these forever and they are now catching on

Do the fins go smaller with board size or stay the same? Great looking boards Greg!

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Do the fins go smaller with board size or stay the same? Great looking boards Greg!

I have 2 sizes

Same template one 1/8" taller from the bottom

How wide is that tail?

How do they ride?

looks sweet.

They ride even better than they look.

I will try to get customers to review these here.

The tails are 14 1/2" - 15"

Hi Greg,

Beautiful as always.

Ride wise, how do these twins differ from one of your quads? Pros and Cons?

(That blue one is real purdy)

Greg

let me borrow a little 6’4" twin before he made me my 5fin fish.

They are a little more high performance than the fishes which are more all around kind of boards and come to life with some juice. You get the drive of a thruster with the straight out speed and rotation of a twin. Kind of what folks are feeling with their quads but less drag and more drive.

The fins seem large but they release really well so you don’t feel them hanging like you would riding an MR setup with a trailer or coming off the bottom and pumping down the line with a quad.

My recollection is that it didn’t feel as stiff as a quad in certain places and had the same rotation off the top as a quad but had much more drive like you would get from a thruster. I think the drive is from him having a different rail line, using larger fins, pulling them way back and then canting, towing and foiling his fins a little differently than anyone else. The closest copy I’ve seen maybe is Webber’s new twin design. Most of the 5fin copy cats have no idea what he’s doing as they’re just jammin another set of plugs on the boards.

A hyperformance twin fin shortboard will be my next board from Greg as soon as he gets settled in.

A twin fin longboard/rocket will follow.

I’ve been meaning to post on this forum for quite some time now and since Greg just posted up my personal twin fin(the blue one above) on here today, I figured I share with you all what has just absolutely blown my mind and what I thought was not possible as far as twin fin designs are concerned until now and has been for the last 20+ yrs.

I’ve ridden this design in everything from waist high punchy beach break waves up into 8ft dredging super hollow beach break surf and I could not be more stoked with how it has performed in all of those conditions.

I surfed it yesterday in 3-5ft very shallow dredgy lined up beach break conditions and I was able to put it on places on the wave where I could’ve never possibly imagined a twin fin could go.

This design is COMPLETE in terms of what you want a board to do that is performance oriented. You want a board to be super drivey but stay really loose and not slidey as well as have it hold through your bottom turns no matter how fast you’re going when you’re going up to crack the lip. I had 3 really fun deep barrels yesterday morning and I almost felt like I was cheating out there while I was on this because of the speed i had readily available to me when I was in the most critical parts of the bowl. I was able to get down to the bottom of those waves and way out into the flats right under the bowl and then throw a quick snap and let the wave throw out and get way way back on the foam ball and then just drive whenever I felt like I needed more speed.

Greg’s design pivots and turns like a thruster would but with an incredibly FREE feeling to it. This FREE feeling is the best way to describe the way it rides when you’re getting up to speed and going into and coming out of your turns. It doesn’t even feel like you have fins on the board all the while you’re just maching down the line and as soon as you want to go and carve the face or crack the lip you can with the greatest of ease. I was trying my best to get Greg’s twin fin to slide out on me yesterday just so I could see how far I could take the board and to my amazement it held as well as my thruster would’ve in those same conditions I was out in. You can approach your backhand surfing like you would going front side and do anything you want.

This design pivots and can hold through any turn your ability will allow. Full round house cutbacks are so much fun on this

thing and will happen with absolutley no resitance in the line you draw on the face. This is an Exception to what the twin fin world has to offer or at least from what I’ve felt on other designs and I’ve ridden/owned practically every popular twin fin performance design that is out on the market. I think Greg is re-writing or has re-written what a hi-perf twin fin should perform like, IMO.

There is no “twin fin” feel to this design other than the blazing speed of a twin fin.

Really, really nice stuff there. Combining proven design elements in an original way, and then topping

it off with truly unique fins and fin set-ups seems to be your specialty. My compliments to the chef.

That was a well written review LH. Kudos to GG for making another fine surfing instrument.

beautiful work greg.

brasco

Thanks Craftee!

i went the way of trying everything that Greg makes,LOL. My quiver is exclusively Greg Griffin and it’s been just a blast to ride all of his creations.

I’ve got a special place in the rotation for the Griffin 5 fin mod fish, Twin Fin, Thruster, Quad, and soon to be arriving one of Greg’s longboards.

Is Gregg the Michealangelo of surfboards or what!I have not read one bad review yet I want one!

I’ve got a special place in the rotation for the Griffin 5 fin mod fish, Twin Fin, Thruster, Quad

Shoots! Do you have a favorite?

thanks for the comprehensive review LH…could you compare it to your 5 fin Griff.

How old are you , weight, years surfing ets etc.

I’ve always hated that over rotation, slidey feel of twinnies.

Sounds very intriguing.

Cheers, Steve.

sorry about the guys,

i’m 29yrs of age x 13yrs experience at an advanced level(debating on doing local Amateur/open men’s contests this coming fall and winter season).

Comparisons/Contrasts to the 5 fin mod fish:

Greg’s Twin Fin has that same endless speed potential built into it just like the 5 fin fish does. I know that sounds crazy but it does and the faster the wave goes the faster the twin will drive just like the 5 fin.

The twin fin has that same lifting feel to it the faster it gets going just like the 5 fin mod fish does

I’d say that the pivoting/turning ability of Greg’s twin fin in steeper/more vertical waves is going to be faster than the mod 5 fin fish. The 5 fin fish generates speed in nothing surf and will turn on a dime with the least amount of speed and then have a more pronounced carry to it when exiting turns.

The twin fin has that same “carry” to it but you’ll need just a bit more of a face and it pretty much just compliments that next step up in surf from where the 5 fin mod fish is at

The 5 fin mod fish and the hi-perf twin fin both have that built in ability to handle any amount of speed your generating to turn into a sweeping long roundhouse cutback or just a vertical blast.

I always mention the big cutbacks because of the increased throttling speed throughout the whole range of the cutback and then as soon as you want to ditch it and crack the lip you can on both the 5 fin and the twin

For waves that are really steep and pitchy I now prefer the hi-perf twin over the 5 fin mod fish because of its rocker design and the narrower tail and it just seems to let you get so deep in the barrel

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I’ve got a special place in the rotation for the Griffin 5 fin mod fish, Twin Fin, Thruster, Quad

Shoots! Do you have a favorite?

Craftee,

there’s my dilemma with having all of these designs,LOL. The twin fin has that really crazy outter space feeling to it just like the 5 fin mod fish does. The thruster is just an alien in its own right. The quad is going to be more like the twin as far as that free feeling is concerned but with a more grippy feel to it, if that makes sense. Right now I see myself wanting to ride the twin fin in anything chest high and above and then just alternate with the quad when I want to switch it up. The 5 fin mod fish is for chest high and below or just really fat/weak surf when the tide is killing it. MY 5 fin mod fish has about 50+ sessions on it and it’s been through everything as far as California beach break conditions are concerned. I was addicted to the speed that you could instantly tap into on this design on the bigger waves I surfed it on. there would be times where I’d just do these really long high and swoopy pumps to try and generate as much speed as possible and then just throw out a huge open face turn to finish off the wave. Greg has said it before and I’ve felt as well as numerous others who ride Greg’s boards, and that is the endless amount of gears available to you if you want to just keep throttling it. The twin fin has that same feel to it as well as the quad and I’ve witnessed a friend of mine do these really high super fast speed checks on his quad that I mistook for lip bashes.

This is a review from the owner of the 5’8" he posted on SurferMag.com

He asked me to make a replacement for his Lost RNF

It got replaced with this.

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ive got a 5’8" griff twin and a 5’4" pod…

at this moment i prefer the twin.

it catches waves easier, faster, and i feel better with it under my arm as i walk down the beach.

the pod rides more like a modern tri.

both skateboardish.

both super fun.

but i like riding the twin.

i little more unique…fun to cutback… goes easier in gutless waves.

the twin holds in great backside too…( i guess because of the fin placement)

ive bogged on the pod, but never on the griff.

ive had great little racey sections on the pod. fun to throw around, so small…

i prefer the griffin twin…

had some beautiful headhigh glassy waves on the griff as well…i love remembering those waves!

oh, the griff twin is not a fish.

get the griff.

( hey, that might be my twin in the pic above?)

I’ve ridden both but the twin wasn’t a custom and a little small for me.

But they are totally different rides

I have a standard fish in place of the Modfish design which has the pulled in and nose flip

They are a little more difficult to ride the tend to get in late and drop vertically but they still are rocketships none the less.

The twin doesn’t ride like a twin but more like a thruster with twin speed and turn radius freedom much smoother than what you’d get out of a normal twin’s feeling. It’s definitely an experience you won’t expect or believe till you ride one just like his 5-fin.

The fishes ride like fishes till you step back onto the back fins and start powering off your back foot (you do the same on the twin) then it accelerates and carves like something much narrower. Like your standard high performance shorty on sterioids.

Hopefully I’ll have a bunch of 6’2" five fin mod fishes to play around with soon and while I order abnd wait on one of his twin fins.

Keith’s been riding Greg’s giant sized funboard version of his five fin this week maybe he can chirp in with his thoughts.

It’s a board that would great as a high performance five fin shorty for someone around 6’2 and 220-240.

probably stupid to say this but I think the reason Greg’s boards are going crazy good is that they make their owners better surfers than they were without them. At least they make the owners feel that way whether it’s actually true or not. That in itself is a priceless gift…

I say you let John Holeman ride one and give you some feedback.