I'm looking for dimensions and description a versatile, all around long board shape. Anyone out there have any idea of what Nat's Magic Sam was like?
http://www.narrabeensports.nsw.edu.au/students/halloffame/nat_young.html
Theres more on Google but no dimensions…
I worked at “Bear” for a bit and they produced a “Magic Sam” replica…
For its time apparrently it was advanced, super thin rails and a deep raked fin.
Me being a shortboarder, they just looked like big-ol’ clunkers to me, with “pointy egg” 50-50 rails and belly roll.
Apart from the nostalgia trip attached to it, the Magic Sam would easily be out-performed by a modern longboard, methinks, so don’t be too hung-up on exacting dimensions…
Speedy
9’ something
…ambrose…
samuel ‘‘Magic Sam’’ Maghett
was a blues player
toured with charlie
musselwhite
died in 1969
Seedy, Spencer Kellogs #s 9’4’’ 17 nose 22.75 wide 15.75 theres a pic on the (post your hull pics) thread page 19.
kp- why don’t you post a photo of your sam board??
Didn’t Paul Gross make a few replicas?
magic sam disappeared after the contest. nat has no idea what has happened to it. He has tried making replicas none are the same. I would venture to say it was one of those magic(no pun intended) boards that no matter how close you replicate the shape it won’t be the same. With that said there are plenty of great longboards out there.
Appreciate your insights and thanks for the link. Agree that a lot of the ‘magic’ was probably Nat’s skill…
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Seedy, Spencer Kellogs #s 9'4'' 17 nose 22.75 wide 15.75 theres a pic on the (post your hull pics) thread page 19.
Great! Thanks mucho!
Hi Seedy, check that:
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Me being a shortboarder, they just looked like big-ol’ clunkers to me, with “pointy egg” 50-50 rails and belly roll.
Apart from the nostalgia trip attached to it, the Magic Sam would easily be out-performed by a modern longboard, methinks, so don’t be too hung-up on exacting dimensions…
Speedy
Ditto. Not only out - performed. But in almost every way. Obviously when I am speaking of a modern longboard…I am speaking of one shaped/glassed properly by a reputable shaper and not one copied and sent to asia for production.
yes, pg made a few, based on input from greenough(who tuned sam’s fin in for nat.) the best one he made is the one kp has…
Great, complete with photos. Kinda wierd looking, the fat hips and all...
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Didn't Paul Gross make a few replicas?
PG worked right with Spence on the Sam model he makes today. A lot of the measurements came from a '63 Yater spoon and then PG (and Spence) pulled it in and bought it up to '66 rocker, foil, etc. What made “Sam” different than all the other boards in the '66 World Contest in OB? 2 things:
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Nat Young was riding it!
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The board was not a “nose rider”. More of a “pig” plan shape (wide point at center, floating back) Thinner, shorter (at 9’4") and of course the Greenough tuned fin.
The boards are beautiful.
'63? in recent interviews didn’t rennie say he made the spoon in '66. the three I have are from '66-'67.
But back to the original question, my spoons have a more piggish template and I find them to be my most versatile longboards. They work at beachbreaks, to points to reefs.
In addition to Spence doesn’t Andreini also make a board that would be “Sam Like”?
All the reference materials I have on hand would indicate that the Yater Spoon did not exist in '63. The Sept 64 issue of Surf Guide has a board buyer’s guide, in which the entry for Yater does not list a Spoon model. Nor, is there any mention of it in the sidebar info provided by Yater.
The year the Spoon debuted is most likely 1965. Reason being, the Greg Noll Cat was a variation on Rennie’s concept, and it debuted in early '66.
As far as an ‘all-round’ longboard shape goes…
While Nat’s '66 World Contest board may have been ahead of it’s time for the period,
by current standards it’s an obsolete shape.
Want an all-purpose longboard that will suit your style, ability, and local conditions?
Consult with a local shaper, or build it yourself by copying a board you’ve tried.
No spoon in 63 for sure. Andreini has ridin my PG son of sam Paul Gross Spoon and makes his version of that design. I still ride my PG. Paul took a template from a Yater drew it out in his kitchen floor and just slowly tuned the template for months till he thought it was just right. I didnt even order it , I went in to the shop to pickup a 8’4’’ hull and Paul laid out the 9’4’’ spoon next to it , matching stringers , he knew I couldnt resist I took both, my wife just about killed me. I still have both boards made in 96, and she has put up with me for 31 years.
i don’t know how she does it…
Luckilly I already owned all my boards and waited 'til I was 37 to get married.
I can only get a new board if I sell one or I have to buy my wife a purse (boy those can get pricey).
yep, they sure can, but a $500 handbag seems like an equal trade-off for a new board!