New Resin Research 2000 PH

General Discussion
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Shaper Supply Resin Research 2000 PH

Shaper Supply now carries the new 2000 PH resin by Resin Research. The 2000 PH resin has a new optical brightener which results in a brighter board after glassing. New improved UV blockers also reflect UV rays to prevent discoloration over time. 

Lost and other large surfboard manufactuers have quietly been testing this product for some time and we’re happy that the RR 2000 PH resin is now available to the public. 

Note: Designed for 2100S and 2100F hardeners. New Kwik Kick formula coming soon.

Shaper Supply Co

www.shapersupply.com

 

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how is the filler kwik kick going

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New KK is out now too.  Some more new projects in the works too.

 

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Tease. Do tell…

Anything on the solar cure front?

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So, just to be sure, is there any problem mixing the 2000 PH with leftover remnants of regular 2000 or 2000 CE?

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Yes it can be mixed with 2000/2000CE

Shaper Supply Co

www.shapersupply.com

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Just out of curiosity, what’s the availability of the slower hardeners or the different flex resins at the retail level?   I’d like to use slower hardeners for finboxes, leash plugs and finishes, and I want to try using combinations of flexier resins for lams and fills vs stiffer for finishes.  

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…this thread belongs to the surfshop section or the industry section, not here.

If you like to sell or inform us to something inside the industry put on those sections

Where s the moderators?

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I’m stoked to see it here though - Not sure I would have seen it otherwise.

Price the same as the other/older ones?

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Hi Guys-

Figured it was time to chime in.  The new Kwik Kick
and PH Epoxies will be the same price as the current resins (at least at
Foam E-Z).  We will be building some boards with both epoxies over the next weeks so we can have
some feedback for you.  From what it sounds like the PH will replace the CE.  You use the same 2100F/S Hardeners with the PH resin.

Both of the new resins should be in stock at our shop around June 1st (hopefully in time for our party), based on availability.

Stay tuned…

Brad

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while we are on the subject of resin reasearch, does kwick kick use the same resin as 2000ce or the new ph ? is it just the harderner that is different or it it a hole different sistem? and im assuming it is ok to use 2000 for laminating and then kwick kick for hot coats ect for a faster flip time?

 

many thanks  

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...this thread belongs to the surfshop section or the industry section, not here.

If you like to sell or inform us to something inside the industry put on those sections

Where s the moderators?

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Hi reverb, the moderators are still here, even 'tho I'm sure there are plenty of threads we miss, hard to keep up with all the action on swaylocks. I understand why you mention this, the original poster is discussing a product that they are offering for sale. 

However, the responses show that the topic is of interest to the board building population in general.  Furthermore, the properties of the product (as it relates to board building) are being discussed - and it is available through several swaylocks (and other) sources, not just the original poster.

If this thread turns out to be driven by one main poster, discussing issues more related to sales talk than surfboard building, with little imput from the actual users of the product, I would reconsider.  As it stands now, I think it fits well in the general discussion folder.

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Kwik Kick is a seperate system.  You can use them together in the same board no problem but each has it’s own resin/hardener set up.  On surfboards I personally just use all KK.  But then I’m impatient … well … and quick.  Gotta be quick with that stuff.

As for availability of some of our systems that aren’t as broadly popular, not all distributors carry all the resins/hardeners.  In fact most don’t.  We sell those direct to the customers through resinresearch.net or we can drop ship for the distributor.

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cheers thanks for the reply, whats the viscosity like to kwik kick, any thinner than 2000? in the uk i strugel with tempreatures a bit, im over in florida at the moment and been doing a few little things and cant belive how nice and easy it is to work with when the resin is so warm and thin! just wish it was like that at home but heating areas up to these sort of temps is hard and exensif! 

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KK is a little higher viscosity.  In winter we use a microwave to warm up the resin. 20 seconds on the resin side then mix in the hardener.  Also laminating technique.  Spread your resin on the flats first and let it soak in while wetting your laps.  Easier way to use resins with a little more thickness.

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cheers many thanks, yea im allredy using the micro wave tecnique and it does help alot, however im mainly doing large sup’s so by the time the laps are all done its alredy thicked up. I have resorted to run a hair dryer round the laps before tucking them just to thin it back up and help the saturation of the cloth but it sure would be nice to be able to use it like it is out here in the warm! i will defantly try out the kwic kick for fill and hot coats though! many thanks

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SUP’s … laminate one side, stringer to rail, at a time.  In other words use two batches of resin.  Using this technique I can use KK all the way through.  Get’s the board done quicker and I have the other KK advantages.

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cheers thanks for that i hadnt though bout breaking it down that way will give it a go, look forward to geting the new ph when it make it over here!

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thanks for the report AG. I’ve learned that it is always good to read your posts.

Quick question: after laminating the bottoms, what do you do after flipping to prep for laminating the decks? Seems like even though the boards can be flipped, the lam can’t be sanded at the edges and dressed up, and the occasional chunks that need to be trimmed and sanded aren’t hard enough at that point. thx for any advice.

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We got in a bunch of this stuff a few weeks ago to try, over the past few weeks we ave been dabbling with it. The first board was tested and basically abused for and holds up pretty well.

This weekend I did a dozen boards with it in the first full on lam session with it.

Heres my notes. Sealed room 75 degress

A bit thicker than KK.

Very blue in the pot.

Spreads and saturates easy

About a 45 minute flip time on 2100F Basically buy the time I got to the 4th board I could go back to the first rack and lam the decks.

On  grooves and pits it does show more blue but that dissapates.

Had a fusion plug that the shaper cut too deep so I had to float about 1/4 inch of epoxy below the plug. No crazy exotherm.

Hot coat goes and fills easy holds well, doesnt drain off, stays in place.

Very clear on the board, boards look bright.

I have physical issues glassing epoxy so usually in our shop im not the one who does, I tried it without a respirator and i had to put one one after the first board, which i would normally do anyway for epoxy. I was curious to see if I would have any different health reaction to this formulation. Same reaction, as the other RR we have had.

Bottle states that it can irritate you, and use a respirator in some better wording,

 

Overall I like it, not my fav epoxy overall  but I would definately buy more for production. 

Its worth trying. performance and workability are both good.

This week we are using it for bagging so ill post some follow up.