I just sent an e-mail to Napali S.A., the French Q-silver headquarters. I think Jeff HAKMAN works there. I suggest all of you send protest mails to your local headquarters. Maybe something will come out of it, who knows?
I didn’t figure they would advertise, but was curious as to whether they made an statement in tribute to Kammie’s or in defense of their new plans.
Was there any protest or demonstrations from the community?
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I shudder to think what Quicksilver is going to do there
Maybe they’ll build some luxury housing for their surf team and some pimp barracks for their goon squads. A “surf shop” to hawk their clothes and give daytime employment for a bevy of team Ho’s. A bar for the team riders to score tourist chicks.
It’s all about giving back to the sport…
One of my memories of Mr. Kam… I just wanted to see if the bread was fresh… Funny, he wasn’t smiling like this either… Hehe… One thing with Mr. Kam, famous surfer or not, he treated everyone the same!
I was slumming around surfermag.com and it appears that Mr. Thompson may be a bit more involved in the transaction…not that I would believe anything I read on the internet.
Howzit Lee, Do you have a link to the post on surfermag that you could post,would like to read it even if it’s not true.Aloha,Kokua
Kokua, Sorry to hear about Kammie’s market and Muiras, (at least Aoki’s and Matsumoto is still around). I just moved from Oahu (ewa beach) and get depressed when I hear things like this, especially with the direction ewa and kapolei are headed/ You are correct- rich mainlanders coming to the islands and running out the local businesses & homeowners that have been there for decades because they can. I cringe at the thought of what Oahu will look like in 10 years.
The best quote I heard while living in Hawaii: “No Hawaiians=No Aloha”
-Nick
Its up to us, the local people to keep Hawaii, Hawaii. We talk about this everyday and the number one thing over all things has nothing to do with money. If they build that complex at Sunset it isn’t gonna stop Hawaii from being Hawaii. Hawaii is what it is from things that happened many generations ago. Things to late to be corrected… Its gonna keep changing and being developed but the truth on the matter is keeping Hawaii, Hawaii is all about local people preserving the local ways. No matter how many people come here and try to take over, we as the local people will preserve the local style… I feel confident in the future… I feel confident our kids will be smart, and make us proud. Thier generation is next to preserve Hawaii’s local ways that make this place so special…
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We teach our kids daily about giving, sharing, enjoying, protecting our culture, respecting our elders etc… My kids… They only know local style. They were born and raised here and so was I, and my parents, and their parents etc… Those of you in Hawaii you know what I’m talking about… I don’t care how much of these big companies move here or how many people come here, local people will preserve our ways and Hawaii will always be Hawaii if we teach our kids right… The local Hawaiian way of doing things is the most satisfying, joyous way to live life…
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As far as Kammies goes, they had one hell of a run! Aloha to the Kams… Life goes on… For all you people of Hawaii, teach people the Local Hawaiian Style. Life can be good for generations to come because we control what happens to Hawaii not anybody else no matter how much money they have…
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You are correct- rich mainlanders coming to the islands and running out the local businesses & homeowners that have been there for decades because they can.
I agree with the sentiment but feel obliged to offer an additional point, especially pertinent to people in Hawaii.
It is a mistake to label all incoming development money as only coming from “rich mainlanders”. Shorthand for that has historically been “Californians” or one of the debasing other terms formed off the root word “California”. It used to piss me off no end in the early 1970’s when Japanese companies were buying up property on Oahu and developing the crap out of it, and I would either hear or overhear angry people talking about effing rich haoles ruining the islands.
While the part of Ouiksilver apparently doing the buying in this case is most certainly headquartered in California, it is important to remember that Ouik is a multi-national, global conglomerate. It was created in Australia, has operations in France and maybe South Africa (don’t know, didn’t look it up). Yes, created by and for surfers, but it now is what it is…U.S. operations are Wall Street surfie darlings.
There is a saying floating around these days: “Think globally, act locally.” But first think globally! You have to know the enemy to fight them or to protect yourself.
Mr. Lee V - this one was pretty good :
I wonder how Kelly Slater balances his sponsor doing this against his own commitment to fight development on the North Shore…
Howzit Lee,Thanks for the link. I never go to Surfermag’s web site but I was also checking what other threads were being discussed and couldn’t believe posts about ice skating, guitar,etc,etc. They sure have some weird non-surf threads there.Aloha,Kokua
Yep…reality check for sure. Thank’s for Sway’s Mike!!!
Mahalo CarveNalu:
You rip like a young guy, yet your words of wisdom are beyond your years. You are an amazing person and a great role model for all Hawaiians. Again, I enjoy reading your contributions.
Feel the Aloha,
D
havent read this thread for a couple days…
saw the heading
and said to myself
not out loud,
good name for a song
‘NO MORE KAMMIES STORE’
…ambrose…
we’ll think about that
I feel yall’s pain about losing local landmarks. This type of thing is happening on every coast in USA and everyone has the same feelings. Over here on the East Coast, our big problem is affluent people moving here, building big beach mansions, and getting rid of beach access. They also indirectly force out locals that have been around for generations. Some folks would call it “progress”. There is no real solution because you can’t legally tell someone where they can and can’t live on the basis of how much money they have and where they lived before. The only thing we can really do is fight to keep access open to all of our beaches, because they are a public resource.
i am not hawaiian and have never been to HI, but this is sad. i havn’t bought anything from quiksilver since i was 12-13. i hated posers wereing their merchanise and claiming they surf, give me a break you live 3 hours from the ocean you spend 1 week there a summer and never visit any other time of the year. anyway, if i waswuiksilver i would own the place take the profit but keep it run like it was original owners still working or getting paid from the store. the only thing that is constant is change
I don’t know about you guys but I never really liked Mr. Kam.
Maybe it was because he was always giving us the stink eye and yelling at us saying things like…
“eh boy, you got money to pay for that?”
I guess it didn’t help that we were camping out in the bushes across the street and flat out broke…
plus his prices were always alot higher than “Downtown” at Haleiwa(pre-haoleiwa) and we needed every penny for gas to get to the country from Ewa and back.
He always seemed to take good care of the local homeless and “name” guys like Owl and the other drugged out bums of the time but chased out all the little punky “no-slipah” local kids “browsing” for a possible five finger discount (oops did I say that)…
Anyway, I miss the country lifstyle I knew back then it’s slowly changed into a grand-tudor world of societal outies and innies when it used to be just a bunch of outies…
Finding guys like Carve up there in the line up are few and far between times.
I find it funny that the “beautiful crowd” spent so much effort to “save” I think they now call it Paumalu, Sharks Cove and Waimea Valley from development but turn a blind eye to to the small guy like Mr. Kam.
Makes you wonder…
Like some said though… It was a good run
A lot of people feel sad, didnt even know the store. Though growing up in a family owned market(open 1941) I would be very upset anything like that would happen to my family. Yes, I do still work for my family. I am the fourth generation to do so. They still give me time to travel and surf.
Jon
It would be a sad if it happen anywhere.
Like the man said, new people come in, with lots of money and different priorities and they really don’t care about the way it was. Those who have been around for a long time suddenly find themselves in houses that have a ‘value’ of a third of a million dollars and more, plus higher tax rates to pay for everything the wash-ashores think they need. Can’t survive on the few jobs that are left that don’t involve stocking shelves or the like.
Round here, the wash ashores want more beaches - which isn’t necessarily a good thing - 'cos they are too lazy to get up before noon and too egotistical to do anything but drive their Stupid Useless Vehicles to the beach rather than ride a shuttle. It wouldn’t do, after all, to go without a half ton of beach chairs and coolers and sundry beach trash.
The latest bumper stickers here are ‘I’m not on your vacation’ and ‘Preserve Cape Cod - Shoot a Realtor ™’ .
Ah well - at 51, hope I won’t see the worst of it. And what with the ocean levels rising, it’s a moot point anyhow.
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