I recently got a new log shaped. Unlike all of my noseriders before, which had lots of spoon this one has almost none and yet it is by far the best noserider I have ever had. I was wondering what you guys thought about concave in the nose and if it is really helpful or just slows you down?
The new board is shaped much different so I can’t really compare it with my old boards. Thanks and have a great day.
The new board is shaped much different so I can’t really compare it with my old boards.
What’s the differnece between this and the others? I think that most of the swaylockians are of the opinion that tail rocker(kicked) is far more important than nose concave for noseriding. regards, Håvard
The new board has a more parallel outline. The nose is more narrow and the tail is wider. It has almost no rocker and is a 1/4 inch thinner.
Haarvard is right in my opinion. Tail rocker is more important for that. Think of nose concave as something that gives control for your climbs and drops when on the nose. Like vee in the tail to some extent.
At my body weight nose concave is a waste,
It just doesn’t work for me.Herb
What I mean is do you believe nose concave is a help or a hindrance for noseriding, by the way I weigh 150.
they’re just different.
boards with nose concave tend to stall out when i approach the nose. but they allow for better directional control from the nose and handle chop much better.
when the surf goes glassy, i bust out the flat-nosed board. a better noserider, IMHO…but doesn’t turn from the nose the way my boards with concave do (but in conditions like that…why would i want it to?!).
that would depend on the individual…simple as that !
For me nose concave is like trainning wheels…I don’t need it and I believe they create more problems than it resolves.
I wt. in @ 145lbs.
Does it help …to some,Yes…to some,No.Herb
"The nose is more narrow and the tail is wider. It has almost no rocker "
Interesting how old becomes new again. Many of the nose hanger guys around here are now going less rocker, no concave, pulled in nose, and hippie tail ends with a little kick. All the old guys here on Sway know that nearly all the boards back in the 60s were nose riders (if the rider was). In fact up until then there were no "noserider " models. With all the advances is tech, and experimentation of design, the board shape of the day here in 2006 is not that far off the shape in 66.
It’s that age old debate between science and art and how much of each. Makes you wonder just how much the spoon, the ugly, the ultimate, the performer, all with the various concaves, slots, and steps, were done primarily for marketing sake by all the shapers of the day competing for the gremmie’s wallet. The hype sure attracted a following and a loyalty to one type, model, or label. Thus the arguments began all the way back then.
Enjoy the ride!
richard mccormick
Just my thoughts/expirences.
for what its worth. both myself and my freinds are good noseriders. A freind of mine has had a lot of good results competing.
I disagree that a pulled in nose, noserides better. I’ve always found width (even though its faster and looser) to be a great thing in noseriders.
up untill recently i felt nose concave didn’t contribute in a major possitive way to noseriding, but after riding two boards with the same rockers/rails and simaler widths and thickness I’ve learned that a well placed and finely tuned mellow nose concave is the ticket to some beautiful nose rides.
I do however like having the wide point of the board in the centre or placed further back.
So to sum up, I like a MELLOW nose concave very much!! (not to deep and not to long though).
the shapes from the 60’s arent much different at all.
I couldn’t agree more… a subtle concave in the nose lets you make those adjustments from the nose a lot easier and faster, and lets you perform better in less than ideal conditions. Too much concave and it IS like training wheels. Around here, the waves are often small and weak, so I like a finely tunded rocker, some tail kick, some double concave in the back half, thin and light, and a touch of nose concave. I’ve got a 9’2 that’s great in small stuff, but in fast waves it’s a dog… too much going on with the bottom and too much rocker.
i learned to nose ride on a beast of a board, no nose concave, very parallel outline knifey as well a knife, wide nose and messed up rocker. I stepped on the Nuuhiwa Nose rider which has a huge concave and tail flip and that board noserides like a dream. i have ridden a Silver Spoon too, which has a much less drastic concave and more traditional rocker, while the board is much more versitile it doesn’t nose ride nearly as well. I have ridden a number of other longboards from my uncles 1965 hobie pig to a patagonia epoxy board(which was incredibly manueverable) and I think concave can help nose riding by making the board more sensitive and a bit slower so it stays in the pocket, but I feel it is like the extra sprinkles on a ice cream cone, yea it might make it taste a little sweeter and look cooler, but you still need the main ingridients for it to taste good.