not One, not Two, but Three herniated disks.

If you need surgery you need it.

But like Shoelesspat who seems like me, has tried all sorts of things, it occurred to me that one of the things I don’t like about surgery (don’t know about lasers, but any surgery and hospitalisation for that matter, entails additional risks) is that you may not learn anything/make necessary lifestyle/health changes and some other problem rolls along and you are unprepared.

My back pain was so bad one day I couldn’t get out of bed, would have to stand at meetings because sitting down was so painful and could only shuffle (I’d be walking with a group of people and if I wasn’t speaking they would forget me and I would be trailling off in the distance). Terrible stuff - back pain. My being actively involved with my back pain and trying all sorts of things - it has not removed the problem, but I have learnt a lot about looking after my health and the importance of maintenance, as well as the beauty of riding alternative surf craft (a mat is my next experiment). Perhaps you learn this with surgery, but I suspect not to the same degree. The obvious parallel is exercise/sensible eating vs. stomach staple etc.

Bob

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Check out the Texas Back Institute. My dad had 2 herniated disks and they fixed him up. He was in agony for 6 or 7 years, but now he feels fine.

www.texasback.com

I met women up on the top of Mono Pass this past September who had had several disks repaired with some type of regeneration procedure at San Francisco Spinal Center. She had the procedure done in April and was at over 12,000’ with a backpack on in September. Laboring a bit, but enthusiastically trying for Starr peak.

http://www.sfspinecenter.com/about/index.htm

I do not have herniated discs, but I once spend 8 hours on the floor unable to move with back spasms. It took a month to feel better and I put my pants on and and climb in and out of bed in a totally new way.

I August I broke 6 ribs. It has taken me a very long time to get back on a board. BUT, it only took the prescribed amount of time the doctor advised to get back on a (sort of cushy) mat. I dont know if a laying-down experience will be recommended for you, but there is a surf world outside of surfboard riding.

check arthrocare.com

plasma disc decompression.

sorry to hear that, it sucks but never say never the body can do truly amazing things when the will is there.

I ruptured the tendon in my L shouder twice in quick succession, the Dr said if I had another fall I’l loss the use of my shoulder joint an old me not do do any kind of extrem sport. I was in a bit of pain pain for while and still get the odd twinge in the colder months but I hardly think about it now.

Go easy for now, build up very very gradually, if you’ve got the goal there and you want it enought then you can get back in the water.

Good Luck

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I do not have herniated discs, but I once spend 8 hours on the floor unable to move with back spasms. It took a month to feel better and I put my pants on and and climb in and out of bed in a totally new way.

I August I broke 6 ribs. It has taken me a very long time to get back on a board. BUT, it only took the prescribed amount of time the doctor advised to get back on a (sort of cushy) mat. I dont know if a laying-down experience will be recommended for you, but there is a surf world outside of surfboard riding.

i have a L2 herniation(snowboard injury)… so i bought a T.E.N.S unit …50 bucks

electro nerve stimulator…u need a perscription for the thing but it works

i was told the nerves get hyper sensitive because they fire so much…its not a cure but its better than pain killers (drugs)

hope you get well soon its a day by day battle the back short walks always helped me feel better

Spinal Stabilization Exercise for Sports

Donald Demay, PT, MPA, OCS

Proper development of the mid-torso is crucial for any athlete’s performance, particularly those who participate in high rotation sports such as golf and tennis. In addition, since the incidence of lower back pain (LBP) can be high among these athletes, it is important to keep the spinal supporting structures strong in order to prevent injury.

Historically, back exercises took the form of sit-ups and crunches, or partial sit-ups. Trainers, physical therapists and others would often differentiate between “upper” and “lower” abdominals when prescribing exercises for their clients and patients. However, this differentiation is misleading, because the abdominals are one group from top to bottom. Therefore, it may be more appropriate to consider each of the four abdominal muscles as being either superficial or deep, depending on where they lie.

The superficial layer of muscles, consisting of the rectus abdominus and external obliques, are considered “global” muscles because they act across multiple joints of the spine. They consist of type II, or fast-twitch muscle fibers, which help in torque-producing activities such as swinging a golf club or tennis racquet. Nevertheless, they are poor stabilizers of the spine.

The deep abdominals consists of the transversus abdominus and internal obliques. Together with the quadratus lumborum at the sides of the trunk, and the lumbar multifidus, or segmental muscles of the spine, they compose the “core” muscles. The core muscles are type I, or postural muscles. They are tonic, or endurance muscles, working at only a small portion of their maximum voluntary contraction over long periods of time. Since they are deeper and lie closer to the spinal joints, they are considered better stabilizers of the spine than the global muscles. They also attach to a very important structure, the thoracolumbar fascia. When the core muscles work in conjunction with the thoracolumbar fascia, this creates a great deal of tension in the trunk, thus further stabilizing each segment of the spine and protecting it from injury during torqueing and twisting activities.

When the spine is injured, there is a loss of self-stabilization. This can be due to damage to the spinal discs, the supporting ligaments, joint capsules or the muscles. In fact, it has been found that two core muscles, the transversus abdominus and lumbar multifidus, atrophy quickly after injury to the spine and often fail to regain their function. The incidence of prolonged core muscle weakness among chronic LBP sufferers could be as high as 80% according to some studies. Many experts agree that this could be one contributing factor to the presence of recurrent back pain.

Proper exercise prescription takes into consideration the elements of frequency, duration, intensity, and specificity. Core stabilization can be achieved through performance of a series of specific exercises aimed at training the deep trunk muscles. These exercises are initiated isometrically. They must be done frequently and at about 30% of maximal voluntary contraction in order to train the endurance function of the muscles. Also, in the beginning phases of exercise, isolating the core without contracting the global muscles is emphasized.

As an example, the transversus abdominus, a muscle active in forced expiration and flattening of the abdominal wall, can be strengthened by slowly pulling the navel towards the spine without contracting the rectus abdominus (the “six pack”) muscles. This should be done in different positions (lying down, on all fours, and sitting, for example) throughout the day. A difficult skill to learn, this takes a lot of practice at first. Once mastered, co- contraction of opposing core muscles is the next level of training. Co-contraction is the way that your musculoskeletal system reacts in order to prevent sheer forces from damaging the spine when twisting at high speeds.

When co-contraction becomes second nature, sport-specific training can be initiated. Sport-specific exercise can be as simple as swinging a weighted golf club or tennis racquet, or could include medicine ball training, the use of exercise tubing to mimic different phases of a stroke, or videotape analysis while incorporating core principles with proper tennis or golf form. At this point the program is limited only by the creativity of the trainer or therapist!

Because of the skill and complexity involved in setting up a core stabilization program, supervision by a physical therapist, athletic trainer, or a certified strength and conditioning specialist is usually necessary. It is always recommended that a physician’s evaluation and referral be obtained prior to beginning an exercise program, especially if there is a history of back pain. Making the time and effort to incorporating core stabilization into any athlete’s fitness program can be a key to enhanced performance and pain-free competition.