Check out my film, ‘The Shapemakers’, Dale Velzy talks about building Hot Curl boards, and how to ride them. He’s making new ones too - they are really bitchin! - Paul
Is Gee Dub for gandster- wheels?Don’t you just hate all that hiphop junk?It’s cool for the little posers I guess.Micheal likes it!
Marc Andreini has , and still is, making hot curls AND riding them as are some of his friends.I believe there may be one at the beach house in santa barbara.
I totally disagree. Competant finless prone surfers rarely ever need to drag their lower body to create turns by force. Besides that, many standing surfers drag their hands and arms to stall, pivot or for balance. Finless is “regressive”? No more than any surfers ability and mindset... if anything, finless wave riding can demand more sophistication, not less. The ancients were NOT stupid... Im sure they were keenly aware of marine creatures’ anatomy. Certainly more than most of todays surfers, many of whom take their fins (and other equipment) entirely for granted! The ancients choices in watercraft design were the result of thoughtful, long-term trial and error. Had they chose to, they could easily have created stabilizing keels/fins for their surfboards, using them in similar manner as the edges of their paddles. In answer to Chris Murrays questions... yes, finless kneeboards can be made to work quite successfully. Ive built and ridden a few. They demand a more sensitive, linear style of surfing, carving and trimming very well across long walls, often handling better as speed, wave size and power increase. For additional finless surfcraft info, check the Swaylocks archives, as well as: Nels Norenes "Vagabond surf.com", <a href="http://vagabondsurf.com/">http://vagabondsurf.com/</a> Rod Rodgers “rodndtube.com’s MyPaipoBoards Forum”, http://rodndtube.com/paipo/forum/index.php?sid=59e366d927d8be6fcb889f18d813c2dd “Pods for primates”, www.surfresearch.com.au/ ****** The photo and link below show just one example of rail contours which can effectively substitute for fins, one of my flex spoon paipos, built in the early 1980`s… the rough equivalent of a saltwater dragster. http://digitalstar.com/dalesolomonson/OriginalImages/289296ORIG.JPG 
Here`s another saltwater dragster… almost finless, buoyant and directional. Bottom contours and 90 degree chines blend into twin keels. Rolled bottom nose, reverse rockered concave tail. Composed of flexible PE foam, PVC bottom/chine skin and resin, sanded Volara deck, hollow ABS skeleton. Circa 1984. 
Matt Miller exactly what is the “hot curl”? Please describe. Thank you.
Halcyon how can the boogie board and the surf mat be “surfboards”? Thank you.
Hey Francis, Strictly speaking one would have to call them surf-craft. Back to work, Rich
Just for you, Jack, I’ve changed my identity, and I’m sad to inform you it had nothing to do with your favourite hip-hop fixation. I hope you do real turns on a real surfboard on real waves. If you don’t … learn. If you do already … goodonya!
I sneaked around the back way and got rid of it!
dale, your stuff looks amazing, i think it reflects the simplicity of surfing… the ocean and an individual! http://www.feraldave.com/history.htm
Attention Swaylocks, This post was added to another thread. Not sure how it got here but you can remove it if you want. Thanks, Greg.