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do chine rails make a noticable difference, say all the way round on a board with belly-flat-V bottom.

do chine rails make a noticable difference, say all the way round on a > board with belly-flat-V bottom. A few things to know when shaping boards and asking such questions… #1 What kind of board??? How long, design ( shortboard, HB or longboard ). #2 What kind of waves?? Clean point glass, Blown out beach break or Pipeline? #3 What are you looking for in board performance?? Nose ride, tube ride, or round house cut backs??? #4 Rocker?? it you have chine rails on a flat rocker good luck turning without digging a rail… Chine Rails work as long as you shape them right for the right board in the right conditions… Ben Aipa has shaped chine rails for years. In his long and short boards. If your board has a rolled bottom to vee you may not want to have chine rails. Chine rails work best on boards design with concave bottoms. It will help a board with single to dub concave and lot’s of rocker turn rail to rail. It will allow the board to rock from one rail to the other. Think of it this way a rocking chair when you sit in it it will rock back and forth with very little effort. With the roll to vee keep it simple if your board is wide 50/50 soft and that’s with a flater rocker. If you have a lot of rocker in your blank better shape some flat or concave in it to make up for all the rocker… Then shape more of a shortboard rail… Last word chine rails tend to be harder to ride in poor condition. Now this is my personal thoughts and i’m sure some may not agree. But what is a forum about anyway… Keep it simple… Rob

Now this is my personal thoughts and i’m sure some may not agree. But what > is a forum about anyway…>>> Keep it simple… Rob May I ask what chine rails are? …it is a forum; tryin to learn.

May I ask what chine rails are? …it is a forum; tryin to learn. It’s a Bevel that is shaped but not blended into the rest of the rail. It’s found on the bottom edge of the board. It’s another way of adding a hard edge to the bottom part of the rail… in some designs it helps water release off the bottom… I sure wish i could draw on this forum it would make post like this so much more simple to explain… I hope that you understand. A little chine shaped into the nose of a longboard will help it nose ride. It works like a Boggie board rail it holds in the wave face better then round… It want’s to climb the face hence better nose ride. That is the only place i add soft chine that front third under my nose… To chine or not to chine that is the question… Rob

do chine rails make a noticable difference, say all the way round on a > board with belly-flat-V bottom. hey JR I’ve experimented with chine rails quite a bit, more so under the nose. They seem to track a little in a straight line and climb the wall as rob said but once you move your weight away from the centre lint of the board they do help to initiate turns from up on the tip.What I put in the board that you rode is like the enlarged and exagerated version of a chine and in my opinion by not making them so sharp they tend to ride more sweetly and enhance control on the tip.Keep all your lines and curves soft and smooth in the front 6 to 7 feet of any longboard and you will have a more forgiving and smoother feeling ride…

It’s a Bevel that is shaped but not blended into the rest of the rail. > It’s found on the bottom edge of the board. It’s another way of adding a > hard edge to the bottom part of the rail… in some designs it helps water > release off the bottom… I sure wish i could draw on this forum it would > make post like this so much more simple to explain… I hope that you > understand.>>> A little chine shaped into the nose of a longboard will help it nose ride. > It works like a Boggie board rail it holds in the wave face better then > round… It want’s to climb the face hence better nose ride. That is the > only place i add soft chine that front third under my nose…>>> To chine or not to chine that is the question…>>> Rob Funny.Remember the old Surfer Magazine series with Murphy and Rick Stoner…the little Hispanic Shoe Shine kid? "Chine Meester?"When I shape a chine I fine sand the bottom last after finishing the rails it brings that line up with a clean edge.I follow the same steps when sanding and polishing. In my humble opinion if you don’t have a hard edge you defeat the purpose (if there really is one)…thanks R.B.

thanks guys. Rob, I wasn’t looking for a specific board but more of a broad general explanation, like the one you gave. just wondering cause I’ve never ridden one and noticed a few in the local racks, basically all the Stewart’s and a few others, all of which have dbl and tpl concaves. I do believe I’ll try it on my next noserider Darren, sounds good.