from a 'Surfing' magazine article ....
so....anyone here ride one regulary ? [I like the Aipa twinny template / fins that mr. beerfan sent me to try out !]
...so , the board ? Well, it looks like THIS.....
interesting but it is Rasta, he rips on anything and everything...he makes every shape look like it is special.....he now riding alot of quads, super light things with carbon rails.....
not being sceptical even though it might sound it, bit like when Tommy Curren ripped the crap outta it on the 5;6" fireball fish in Indo.....
been riding this 5’10" almost exclusively these days, respectfully inspired by Aipa’s designs, with a slightly fuller outline at 19 3/4 and 15 in the tail. Goes so well in so many conditions…
i haven’t bothered with a quad, except on the mini-sim platform and I find it feels dead compared to a good twin…
nice sled....I am sure its lively...I am doin alot of quads and they definitely dont feel dead, lots of variations in fins and placement though so its hard to compare quad against quad or any board for that matter but the twinny like that looks fun, but I usually have to nurse twins, just the way I surf .....
hey pridmore,
you’re right, to lump them all in together is unfair. In terms of my fish, and hybrids, i personally prefer the freedom the twins provide.
I was a quad devotee for ages, but after playing with twins again for the past year or two, I find they suit me better. I was addicted to the down the line speed of the quads, but found they did “stick” a little. Nothing that couldn’t be adjusted to, but the twins are definitely “unstuck.” The trick was to find a way to give them more control/hold.
When it comes to simmons take offs, i prefer the quad as it helps control the width in the tail a bit better. But, like everything, that is my take on it, and by far from gospel. If we all rode the same shit, it would be a boring place in time…
done any twinzer min-sims ? I do probably 75% quads ( on all diff shapes ) and find them great for what I do, but can see what you mean and have always liked the idea of twins but I surf a bit heavy footed and like to really put power into turns so I often spin em out ( the ones I have ridden anyway ) but I am sure those twins have more hold with those fins and placement.....tail still seems quite wide at 12" though , much skatieness ???
this was the 1st simmons-esque experiment I did, and it is a keel with a lead canard. Goes really, really well if i may be so bold…
The tail on the twin i posted is 15", but it does look wide in the pictures. Only time it slid was on the 1st wave when my feet weren’t over the fins. Now, it feels solid as.
You’re right about placement though. Any further up, and it would be a slippy board, as you mentioned. I can also see where you’d like a quad, but trying a twin with the fins further back could be fun too…!
Watching “Man vs Wild” I’ve almost gotten used to hearing Bear say “slippy” instead of slippery.
Is it commonly used in the UK or a “Bearism”?
You know I’ve been giving some thought to what direction the next mini-simmons board for myself would take and I’ve been thinking twinzer so carry on with the analysis.
Rode my 6’2" MR 1982 twinnie yesterday in some super shifty 3’ peaks and it goes so well.
What Rasta’s riding has little relevance to me (and my surfing) but have seen he’s riding super thin Formula boards lately.
Maybe he’ll still ride the Aipa twins when he’s in Hawaii.
i guess that should have said slippery instead of slippy… not in common use over here to my knowledge, but I’m not actually from the UK just living here…for now…
In a possible hijack, i reckon a keel with canard works best with the mini-sims, but quads are second in line. A twinzer makes sense, but you’d need a fair bit of fin area to match the tail width…or not!
I agree that what Rasta and other pros ride doesn’t apply to me much, but it does trickle down in certain cases. I had planned to make one of these boards for ages, ever since getting sent a surfer magazine design issue from the 80’s and seeing all the old templates. I didn’t want to make a retro board as I really don’t see the point. But, some of those outlines and concepts are worth revisiting with a modern mindset. We have learned a lot in the past 30 years, so simply duplicating something is silly. So, when I saw Aipa’s and a few others, it sort of validated what I already thought. And, it made me wish I had done it sooner.
Mind you, Stretch had a double bump pin twin a while back that looked super fun too…
These little winged twins work really well when you make them more modern. It feels like real blend between a fish and shortboard. All the speed, but increased maneuverability and hold. What’s not to like?
I do a quad design that very similar in planshape without the flyer ( bump ) and it works a treat......quite small fins in rear so it is a lively quad.....
fun looking board.....I like the twinzer idea for a mini-sims, but need to tinker with my board for a while longer to see what the changes might do, coz mine feels great and hard to imaging improvements at this stage but that can happen when the stoke levels are so high, usually early stages of a new sled then they fade as you ride it more and I start to consider what adjustments I would do to improve or differ its performance.....
my dim-SIM has been reviewed by a surfmag and apparently he loved it and have had some difficulties getting the boards back haha...always a good sign....but he actually rode my semi-finless board ( the Fish-Finger ) more and loved it, which surprised me a little coz they are challenging but very fun and refreshing once you get the hang of it.......stoked others are enjoying what I am into, dont see any others doing it but I know alot would love it......