Hey Kirk, I feel lucky to have gotten in early on the rush!! Like I said to Lee, couldn’t have done it without you guys. Can’t even seem to concentrate on getting my ding repairs done - keep checking my watch to see if it’s Tuesday yet…
aloha
waxfoot
The pull is like stepping on the accelerator of a pre-70’s Caddy…powerful and smooth. It won’t snap your neck but you can feel the power. The longer you can keep the board on a rail, the more it accelerates. It’s not an instantaneous jump like a thruster but more a whooooooooosh. The tri-fin set up seemed to give the hull a little jump-start…turbo boost you might say.
A fishy cutback is a little harder to describe…on most boards a cutback is a decellerating move. On a fish, its more of a power move. You don’t seem to lose any board speed. The harder you push the faster you go. On a thruster, it seems to me that the board will squirt a bit if its turned tight enough but you lose board speed pretty quickly. If you round-house a thruster you have to steer it around rather than push it like a fish. On a hull the radius is so dependent on the rail rocker and outline that you lose the options for varying the turn that you have on a fish.
Limitations: The descriptions presented above represent the personal opinions of the author and are based on his personal experience. Your milage may vary.
Lee pushed that baby over on one cutty rite in my face, gave me a little cut back spray in the face , what are freinds for? Lee can you see Halcyons fins on that board, cant wait to see how that would work. Richs fins were great also Herbs stuff, new and old Ideas bouncing all around.I love it!!!
LeeV
how to they ride in comparison to Dave Parmenter’s Stubb Vector Boards? I have a couple from Hale Nalu in Waianae and it sounds familiar. Sure would like to see a pescador(?) Is there a website? I think I might have seen one in a issue of longboarder but I could be hallucinating.
Anyway DP’s vectors are fast and like to be ridden forward a bit. You need to step back on the tail to come around but it’ll come around the whole rail line if you do it with a little weight forward. I guess it’s the wide continuous curve ad low rocker line. I did mistakenly scare myself once on my 7’4" with a 180 carving pivot slash off the hook by throwing all my 200 lbs off my backfoot onto the diamondtail with a set of FCS webber CRVs. Is that the fish move you’re talking about? I never did that again as thought I threw my back out along with some whiplash with that expression of anger. Board went one way and I almost went another…
Be interesting to see one of these… Are they the liddle platter designs?
The weakest “spray” ever…I wish I had taken a couple of the paipos out on Saturday afternoon. Too many toys and not enough time…
AAAAHHHH! I think my brain’s about to explode with anticipation of my Pescado to arrive… Thanks for the descriptions of terms, Lee. I have to admit, the term “pull” gave me a bit of a worry - I was thinking pull like your car pulling to one side if your brakes are a bit off… Sounds like the fishy cutback could be both good and bad… By your description, pushing into a cutback on a fish is good, but then you say that on a hull you lose the options for varying a turn… Hmmm… still mentally chewing on that one.
Kirk - please keep me posted on all the fin combos you try out. I’m sure it’ll take some time just to figure out the best first setup. Any suggestions on what to put in the finbox in combo with those RedX sides? A small single about the same size as the RedX’s? Or maybe just the starfin for starters? As an afterthought I was thinking maybe I should have asked those guys for the trailing fin of the RedX set and figured out how to put it in a finbox… Just for starters, to get the feel of the board before going crazy. 
Oneula - here’s a pic scanned from Longboard. As soon as I get mine and have some time on it, I’ll take a picture or two and post them…
Sorry…a single fin hull is tougher to change the shape of a cutback than a fish…The Pescado seems to have the best of both a fish and a hull…mostly its just a whole lota fun.
Fabulous. Thanks for the clarification Lee. Hmmm… wonder how it’ll work with the starfin… Guess I’ll just have to try it out! 
Beetle, where’d you move from?
I agree with you- the surfboard market here is ridiculous.
I moved here from New England about two months ago when my girlfrend started college. I pretty much started banging nails as soon as I got off the plane. There’s tons of carpentry work out here, just really tough to find somewhere to live. Doing okay so far. I got the deepest cheater-five tube of my life on that last south out at publics. I replay it over and over in my head while I creep along in H-1 traffic every morning.
PS…
If anybody else is interested I just got an email from Katherine Hatzikian saying that those guys are coming to Honolulu sometime next week and might bring some stock boards with them if anybody’s interested.
Yo beetle-
Didn’t you author an earlier post about moving to Oahu?
That was fun to read when it got off on a tangent. If Tyler’s boys are coming down here, you should try to get your hands on one of his fish. I’d like one. I have a Tyler here that’s 6’0, but I’d like to go to 5’10". Surfed it in 4 SoCal counties and all over the island here. He doesn’t get a whole lot of press for his deuce, but I’d venture to say that it surfs just as good as the Mandala fish that I have, although it’s not tricked out with marine ply fins, wedge stringers, and other fish intangibles that people rave about. Maybe it’s because his are computer milled, or at least they were 4 years ago.
hey bill,
i just read the story about how we met and i had to crack up once again–definitely one of the funnier stories in my big island story quiver. i ended up surfing bowls for the rest of my stay with a guy named troy (who coincidentally got some lessons from my mentor rich pavel years ago back on the mainland) who set me up at his camp near pahoa. good fun surfing after the morning crew and hanging out on the picnic bench watching the local talent show us weird mainlanders with our weird boards how it’s really done. i’m missing the teri combo over at koji’s bento in hilo and all the ripper wahines in puna…have fun while we start hunkering down for winter with booties and hoods >>>
aloha > manny
Hey Manny! Cool to hear from you. Was going to drop you an email to say thanks for the good conversation, but you know - Hawaiian time and all. Wanted to get back down there to Pohoiki the next morning but forgot about previous commitments so had to head elsewhere. By the time I got down there I think the following day, you were already gone. Sure would have liked to have tried that board of yours, though undoubtedly would have been a bit of a clown on it, ha ha. Still working on trying to figure out how to ride shorter boards again. If you ever get ono for some hawaiian food, I know there’s a restaurant in SF that a friend of mine works at (she’s from Hilo originally). Not sure where it is exactly, but I could probably find out… Let me know the next time you’re over on the big island if you’re in need of a place to crash or someone to surf with. We’ll even see if we can get you in a canoe!
aloha
Bill
dubstar,400 for a basic board,id say 550 - 600 for tint resin and volon.
choice of fin setup is in the basic custom board cost…what u want without the bullshit price.a board at cost to me is 208…130uk.
maybe they can get away with silly prices cos of the island connection,who knows
In the US, wood keels, especially Gepharts, raise the price considerably…I’ve not seen a traditional fish with wood keels for under $500.
u should come to the uk for boards then,seems like were way more competitive price wise
