urine or vinegar to dissolve the material
infection is the primary concern
imagine doing a face plant on them like some friends did at wailupi and pakalas and have to ask a friend to piss on your face…
urine soaks works for both vana and portugese manowar hits…
and don’t worry the best buddist monks drink theirs for cleansing…
bear gillis drank his too as well as the liquid squeezed from animal dung to survive
Thanks Surffoils!
and others!
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Howzit oneula, We have an herb here in Hawaii called Lokahi which is a wonder when it comes to curing infections. I have used it since the 70’s and it beats the heck out of any antibotic creams. Use it on a staph crater and in 2 days the infection redness and swelling are gone. I tgrows every where’s like a weed and people don’t realize just how great it is. It acts like a drawing agent and sucks all the bad out. You can also use it for other applications by making a tea or adding it to salads. People who I have turned on to it can’t believe how fast and good it works. It’s probably growing in your yard. Aloha,Kokua
A day before coming back to the States she stepped on a stonefish!! Poor girl is lucky to be alive and - according to her - still in excrutiating pain a full week after getting hit.
Very luck to be alive from what I have heard of those things. The poison attacks the central nervous system I believe. I also believe that some victims have tried chopping their own limbs off bacause the pain is so severe.
CANDLE GREASE if you can find it I was surfing soupbowles and hit the reef full of urchins coblers and other funcky stuff…this guy snake a local and friend of a friend fixed me up with candle grease he put it on the next day they all popped out still dont no what candle grease is or where to get it but it works I had hundreds of the dam things and couldnt even walk but it worked
They are similar to limestone, so your body won’t reject them and move them closer to the surface like a wood splinter. Vinegar will work somewhat if the skin isn’t sealed up around the entry hole, and using a big syringe to try and suck them out works occasionally. As far a piss in a bucket, well I would just use my own personal piss and not anyone elses to soak an open wound. I have a lot of tiny eye surgery tools, so if I can reach the area, I dig it out. I still have some in my knees after 25 years that are visible, but they’re ordinary purple urchins and not any poisonous kind.
Here you go again,
fwiw http://www.aloha.com/~lifeguards/alsting1.html
port a gee sausage and rice at rainbow
Although formerly considered effective, vinegar is no longer recommended for Portuguese man-of-war stings. In a laboratory experiment, vinegar dousing caused discharge of nematocysts from the larger (P. physalis) man-of-war species. The effect of vinegar on the nematocysts of the smaller species (which has less severe stings) is mixed: vinegar inhibited some, discharged others.
No studies support applying heat to Portuguese man-of-war stings. Studies on the effectiveness of meat tenderizer, baking soda, papain, or commercial sprays (containing aluminum sulfate and detergents) on nematocyst stings have been contradictory. It’s possible these substances cause further damage. In one U.S. Portuguese man-of-war fatality, lifeguards sprayed papain solution immediately on the victim’s sting. Within minutes, the woman was comatose, and later died.
Alcohol and human urine may be harmful on Portuguese man-of-war stings. An Australian study reports that both alcohol and urine caused massive nematocyst discharge in the box jellyfish, Chironex fleckeri.
sea urchins; excerpt-These are so brittle they almost always break off in the wound. Neither urine nor vinegar dissolves such embedded spines. Never try to crush them by hitting the area with a heavy object. This only adds to the injury. In most cases, the body either absorbs spine fragments in 24 hours to 3 weeks, or they work themselves out through the skin. Most wounds heal in about one month.
Applying heat for pain control is unproven. Some authors recommend it. Others believe it is of no benefit and should not be done.
The thick spines of the `ina do not dissolve as wana spines do.
~Yeah I just went with the tweezers
edit; "hitting the area with a heavy object? Yeah, right.
One way to get them out is to not get them in. In the early 60’s when we’d go to San Miguel, we’d wear tennis shoes with a thin insert of 1000-series (i.e. “soft” – and even corrosion resistant) aluminum. First wave you’d normally have your feet drag a little on the board during the “pop-up”–but you’d soon adapt. I would think that now one might be able to do something similar, but better, with similar inserts in some types of booties.