Resin Research X-55 accelerator...

General Discussion
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Hey all  - Any of you who use/used it care to share your experiences, please?

I bought some, but forgot to ask Greg how much to add, and I don’t recall seeing it on the web site, and, more importantly, I figure there must be some good information to be learned from the Sway brethren based on your experiences. 

Minimally - Would some one hip me to how much to add per unit of hardener/resin - etc.

Mahalo -

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I use 1cc per ounce of mixed resin/hardener.  3% is what that is. 

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Thanks Greg - To make sure I’m clear - and to help spread the understanding - I’m working in all metric, and it has been my experience w/RR epoxy, that if I’m +/- a ml, woking as small as 1.5CC’s, I’m good. 

With that in mind: 1oz=3cc(2.957cc), so in your formula, the oz of mixed resin-harener would be 1cc hardener, and I’m realizing that it doesn’t work, as 1cc would end up being about 25% X-55 by volume.

I’ve been using 1ml of addative F/1cc hardener. 

Can you help me with a similar formula?  My math is looking like this: 1oz=29.57cc Mixed resin, so, that is 9.85cc of hardener.  3% (X-55) of 1oz/29.57cc=.887cc/8.87ml (X-55).  So, does this look close enough: 9ml of X-55 per 10cc of hardener?

Plus - Does anyone out there have experience with this stuff?  Any cool tricks, odd applications, etc.?

Thanks -

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ive used about a whole container so far.

ive never measured it out at all.

usually throw a few drops into my hot coat and gloss coat so it doesnt harden slowly and run off the board. i usually only use it when the temps are below 60 which is starting to happen again(Fall is starting here). too much of it really cuts the time down considerably. Heating the resin also helps cut times down.

 

what are you looking to do with it?

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Greg, any chance you’d send a bottle of it too Ireland? Cant get it off sea base and it’d make life an awful lot easier.

 

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3% in metric would be 3 ml per 100 ml of mixed material.  There are about 30 ml in an ounce.

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Check your local pharmacy, drug store, local veternarian, etc.  They should have syringes which are labeled in cc's.  I like the syringes because you can suck up only what you need keeping everything clean.

I got mine from an animal feed store that sold medicine for farm animals, cost about 50 cents without the needle. 

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Thanks all -

Greg - not unlike “additive F,” is it ok to use a little extra?

Sorry to be so slow, but I like to try and keep things as simple as I can some times - like measuring “add F” to hardener - so, would I be safe to say 1% of the hardener?

And, now that I think of it like that, dang, that ain’t much - kind of like adding catalyst to poly res., for small batches, by the drop.

And, as I thought about this later, and as John M. pointed out to me in a PM so as to save me the shame of forgetting a “cc” is a “ml.”

I am planning on using it for ding repairs at this time.  I love to have the full time when laming - I’m still a kook - plus I put some extra weird curves in my decks… but (I just had a thought) I could add some to my last batch for lapping the rails, so it’d “go off” sooner, and not require so much baby sitting to make sure the ends/tips stay good.

Last thoughts: If the hardener is 1/3 of the total, then my thought that x-55 should be 1% to the hardener, which sure isn’t much.

Ps - I think I’m realizing…   Ah, I don’t know, I gotta look at my measuring cups.  I know it’s working right w/additive F - the directions are on the can, and I think it may be cc’s:oz…  Sorry…

Thanks for bearing with me all -

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Hey all - I’m finally getting ready to use some of this stuff, and was revisiting the numbers.

Please disregard my earlier ramblings:

Per Greg L.

“I use 1cc per ounce of mixed resin/hardener.  3% is what that is.”

  Sounds easy enough to me for quantities down to an ounce.

My question is: Is it ok to use a little to much/to little?

I guess I’ll figure out how many “drops” -from my given pipette - = 1cc, and break it down from there for tiny ding batches… Although, as I write, I realize if I have a pipette w/1/2cc, 1/4cc, etc. I can figure it out from there. 

So, again, what have you guys found if you use to much - it’s obvious what to little will do Thanks-

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The stuff is great, but if you're laminating, be sure and stick to the prescribed formula. I brainfarted and lost count of what I added to the mix and it almost cost me. It was beginning to stiffen before I had squeegeed out the excess resin so I really had to step it up to clean it up and tuck the laps.

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A little too much is ok… just get it out of the bucket in a hurry. I used “a little too much” once and didn’t pour it all out soon enough… ended up with a smoking, frothing cup of resin lava. But yea… you can give or take a mL here or there and be fine.

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Thanks folks - Sad/funny true story…

First batch of RR.  A guy told me, Greg told him, stir one minute, let set for five to let the bubbles out…    "Hmm, this stuff sure is hot…  OUCH!!  What!?!?  There goes a whole bucket…  Called Greg,  “What, I’d never tell anyone to let it set in the pot.”

Live an learn…

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Great stuff Taylor,

My rookie mistake:

I was mixing some resin when ring ring, ring ring, better get it I suppose, could be important, am expecting an overseas call,  Run to the house,  damn telemarketer, no I haven't got time to save money, no I'm happy with my call provider, Arrg ....just hang up, back to the workshop to find a smoking pot of resin... got a phone in the shop now but it rarely gets answered!

One of those things you only do once....I hope

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Hi Offshore

I sent you a pm about getting RR in NZ here. Let me know if you can help out.

Karl

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i just mixed 8ml of x55 measured with a syringe into 8oz for a hot coat. It started setting up as soon as I poured it down the middle of the board and plowed it down the stringer. according to this thread and everything I’ve read about x-55 that should have been fine. Anything I missed?